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03-08-2018, 09:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
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A friend of ours just ordered his 4th new 5th wheeler in 10 years.
WHY ? , beats me but he always has a list of thing he doesn't like about his present trailer .
I am sure that there are things that people don't like about Oliver's
or Escape or Casita or Scamp or Big Foot or ETC.
It doesn't mean any of them are inferior only different and each appeals to a different set of consummers.
I would expect that a comparison chart drawn up by Oliver would be tilted toward Oliver.
Their is no one trailer that is perfect for everyone and if the only objection you have to an item is its' price then the product probably is pretty good.
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03-08-2018, 10:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 6,685
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thiggins
They also say the 21' has "Tandem 3000 lb. axles w/rubber torsion suspension". Also not accurate...

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This just speaks to outdated information. The early 21's did have dual 3000# torsion axles.
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03-08-2018, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 2,650
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I guess they had to compare Airstream to give some justification to their price even though it is Apples and Oranges in my mind. Would have liked to see the Big Foot on the list at least.
Always wondered how you fix water leaks from pipes, or etc in between the two shells of an Oliver.
Having had a Boler years ago I did not expect so much wood in an Escape.
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03-08-2018, 10:57 AM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Sacramento area, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21
Posts: 512
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I shipped 2 fabrics to Escape (the valances have a different fabric) and ordered the different formica as an option. There were fees for both customizations but well worth it in my opinion. If I ever get another Escape I might change the flooring as well.
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03-08-2018, 12:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
Posts: 2,618
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I don't consider the interior of our Escape to be dark at all. Our Escape has way more interior lighting than we have ever needed to use at one time, and with the window shades up during the day, there is plenty of natural light even without the electric lights. Maybe in 25 yrs or so when the interior of my 19' starts to get a little worn, I may also decide to go with a lighter color for the woodwork. Until then, I will be more than happy with the light oak color that I have.
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03-08-2018, 01:19 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,902
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thiggins
They also say the 21' has "Tandem 3000 lb. axles w/rubber torsion suspension". Also not accurate...

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But as Dave explained it was. The load rating (determined by the length of rubber rods in the suspension) has been changed by Escape; while it is apparently 3500 pounds in the current 21', it was 3000 pounds for the 21' and 2500 pounds for the 19'. The table really should have a date on it.
Also inaccurate is the term "torsion" in the suspension description, but that's a normal industry practice - Dexter even encourages it by calling the product "Torflex", and so Escape follows suit, currently listing "Tandem 3500lb Torsion Rubber Ride Suspension" for the 21'.
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03-08-2018, 01:27 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,902
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggscape
I guess they had to compare Airstream to give some justification to their price even though it is Apples and Oranges in my mind. Would have liked to see the Big Foot on the list at least.
Always wondered how you fix water leaks from pipes, or etc in between the two shells of an Oliver.
Having had a Boler years ago I did not expect so much wood in an Escape.
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Although the most familiar interior for a Boler ( or Trillium 1300, or Boler 1300 copy such as Scamp) is the classic fiberglass furnishings look, most 17' Bolers and many other trailers of the era had entirely wood-and-panelling interiors... including mine.
During the aborted collaborative effort between Escape Trailer Industries and Tom Young's Trillium RV, ETI was to build Escapes with wood cabinets and Trilliums with fiberglass cabinets in the same shells.
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03-09-2018, 09:16 AM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
Posts: 3,033
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Walter
I don't consider the interior of our Escape to be dark at all. Our Escape has way more interior lighting than we have ever needed to use at one time, and with the window shades up during the day, there is plenty of natural light even without the electric lights. Maybe in 25 yrs or so when the interior of my 19' starts to get a little worn, I may also decide to go with a lighter color for the woodwork. Until then, I will be more than happy with the light oak color that I have. 
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As people age they need more and more light to see and focus.
The light oak cabinets in an Escape probably are not a visual impairment for someone in your age bracket ( Younger ). For older folks the cabinets may seem dark so one option is to increase the light levels or to paint the cabinets white.
When we built our cabin 30 years ago my wife complained that there was too much light now she complains it's dark .
The building didn't change, we did !!
Escape's choice of light oak is a good compromise IMHO
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03-09-2018, 09:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Long Beach, Washington
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19 "Tortuga"
Posts: 200
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facebook?
Is anyone on Facebook? ETI has posted some pretty cool shots of custom interiors they have done.
https://www.facebook.com/EscapeOwnerX3/
steve
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03-09-2018, 09:37 AM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,406
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I saw that, Steve. Quite a nice diverse selection of folks good taste.
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03-09-2018, 12:12 PM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Seattle, Washington
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21
Posts: 73
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Is your trim white or cream, I like the look and we are also going with a lighter counter top.
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Originally Posted by Jill
I felt the same way and made it work for us by using a marble look Formica on the counters and creamy white ultra leather for my seat cushions. I will try to post a pic 
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03-10-2018, 12:40 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Sacramento area, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21
Posts: 512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sailor231
Is your trim white or cream, I like the look and we are also going with a lighter counter top.
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The table trim is white. I look forward to seeing what you end up with!
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