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Old 09-05-2019, 11:48 AM   #21
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Old 09-05-2019, 11:49 AM   #22
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Not really a comparison for Scamp vs Escape. Different market group. Kinda like asking Hyundai vs Mercedes. Scamps are great trailers for what they are built for and the price point is very appealing to get out of a tent.
Escape starts moving into more of Glamping vs Camping, but you need quite a bit more $$$.
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Old 09-05-2019, 12:02 PM   #23
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I toured a Scamp fifth-wheel trailer at an "egg" rally in Pennsylvania several years ago, when I was researching a possible RV to buy after retirement. I was disturbed by how narrow the center ailse was in the Scamp. I thought that this wouldn't do for long-term travel, and in fact that experience made me give up the idea of buying a fiberglass trailer for a while. Later when I toured an Escape I was impressed with how much more space there was for moving around. This led me to eventually buy one.
Mike, was this egg rally at Delaware Gap Pocono Mountain KOA back in 2010/2011?
I was there with my Eggcamper 'NestEgg".
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:39 PM   #24
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Scamp wooden flooring

This what I was referring too while escapes are solid fiberglass scamps wooden floor is exposed underneath. And yes proper maintance is a must on either escape or Scamp. Have read about multiple floor failures on older scamps.
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:47 PM   #25
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Old 09-05-2019, 05:17 PM   #26
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Mike, was this egg rally at Delaware Gap Pocono Mountain KOA back in 2010/2011?
I was there with my Eggcamper 'NestEgg".
No, this was an "Egg Fest" at a KOA near Lewisburg in 2012. I drove up from my house in Maryland to check out the eggs.
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:45 PM   #27
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A mod my father and I did some years back was insulate a Scamp 16 floor. 2” polystyrene (R-10) protects the underside wood to a degree as well as makes the floor much more comfortable in cold weather.

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Old 09-05-2019, 08:38 PM   #28
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As already mentioned, floor rot is typically the result of water from the interior (due to plumbing leaks or body leaks); the most effective design to ensure rot is to put a layer of fiberglass under the plywood, trapping water in the wood. That's why Escapes have planned drainage under the floor. Perfectly sound 30+ year old wood-only floors are normal.
Really, where can you find a a 30 year old escape trailers these days, They only been in business since 2003, just wondering.
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:13 PM   #29
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Really, where can you find a a 30 year old escape trailers these days, They only been in business since 2003, just wondering.
I think he was referring to Scamp in that last sentence. Started in early 70’s...
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I don't mean to bash them but the interiors seem very dated and the layout of the fifth wheel cabover bed seems really odd and impractical for two people.

I didn't like the method using rivets through the body to mount interior fixtures and the fresh water capacity of 12 gallons was another significant factor.

It was an easy choice for us to go with an escape over the scamp.
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Old 09-06-2019, 11:09 AM   #31
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I guess I was thinking more like LED fixtures as an option, not just buy some bulbs on the parts page. Give Scamp another ten years, they'll get there.... maybe
Ironically that may be a better approach anyhow. By having a replaceable bulb the user has a multitude of replacement options (style, lumens, color). This would also eliminate the risk of a fixture with an inferior hardwired LED strip being used. I'm thinking of the many failures (strobe effect) that some Escape users have experienced. We are very happy with our original incandescent fixtures that were retrofitted with bulbs from superbrightleds.com. I'm sure if one searches they can find high quality lights that may have hardwired LED's but I have no need to look.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:14 AM   #32
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In 2013 we went from a Scamp 19 (we called it Moby since it looked like a white whale...) to a used classic 2008 Escape 5.0 (single axle). The reasons we had were many of the reasons already mentioned. But a major reason was the bed area. Hubby is 6'2" and the Scamp bed (even if he slept at an angle...) was not comfortable. We were also glad be done with the rivets. We think the Escape is a better thought out trailer...at least for our purposes...
As others have said, a good time can be had with either!
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:05 AM   #33
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:23 AM   #34
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At last weekend's "Scrambled Eggs" rally there were 5 x 19 Scamps. Visited two of them, had only seen one before last weekend. Two different layouts, one you had to climb on the couch to reach the bed, the other had steps but the owner complained of lack of head height in main part of the trailer. Both looked at our 5.0TA and were quite impressed.
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:47 AM   #35
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Awww...it was cute in a homely sort of way....
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Old 09-11-2019, 12:19 PM   #36
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Old 09-11-2019, 01:01 PM   #37
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Actually you will, in a way, because you will constantly be saying "thank you" for the compliments
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Old 09-12-2019, 08:17 AM   #38
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We had 2 Scamp 19 Deluxes, & stepped up to the Escape 5.0ta. Best decision we ever made. Better ventilation & air flow, no pop rivets, far superior finish in bathroom (the cheap paperboard or whatever it is that Scamp uses will inevitably discolor & show water damage), dual axle. We didn’t need the extra floor space or storage, but we sure are enjoying it. In a word QUALITY! I do miss the rat fur. The lower Canadian dollar (today’s rate is $1CDN = $.76US) significantly reduces the price difference. I could go on & on.
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Old 09-12-2019, 09:07 AM   #39
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A Scamp owner toured our 19 once. When he came out he said “Wow, that’s like a Scamp on steroids.”
I was drinking with some guys one night and someone referred to the Weasel family member the Fisher. A lady who had been listening asked what a fisher was. I asked her if she knew what a Mink was? She said she did so I told her a fisher was a Mink with a turbocharger. Love comparisons.
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:26 AM   #40
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The 5.0TA is substantially wider than the Scamp 19'; that size difference, construction and quality differences, and tandem axles probably make the difference for most buyers. Of course, the smaller size and single axle (and price) lead many people to the Scamp.

Ironically, many recent 5.0TA owners have installed the Andersen Ultimate hitch system, which is functionally about the same thing as Scamp's "weird" hitch, but in a different ball size.
Had a few Scamp owners check out our 5.0TA and they all remarked on the quality.
🤔The Scamp hitches that I’ve seen where bolted to the pickup bed, not the frame. No where near as strong as the Andersen set up.
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