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01-09-2015, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian B-P
On the other hand, I drive a compact two-wheel-drive car with winter tires. Living in a rural area, I have never (in the couple of decades I've been in this location) had difficulty driving in to work and home... past the many 4X4's in the ditch (none of which are Jim, of course ).
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Both our front wheel drive cars do great on snow and ice with their winter tires, and the Pilot not too bad with AWD and all season tires, BUT when the snow is deep, and weather conditions are terrible, I MUCH prefer my $x$ F-350 that has 1,500 lbs of topper and tools on it, and a knarly set of Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac shoes.
We all learned to drive in snow at a young age around here, an learned to keep it out of the ditches. Or course I can't vouch for the driving capabilities of people imported from nicer climates.
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You 2x4 drivers are just jealous.
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I know, eh?
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01-09-2015, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Nah... I think the 4x4 drivers are jealous of our fuel economy and handling.
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I'll give you the edge on fuel economy for sure, but no way on handling. I would gladly set up road track in winter conditions, and have a race. I just loves me doing some four wheel drifters around corners in the deep snow.
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01-09-2015, 08:41 PM
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Back a few years when I was still a news photographer, I'd get sent out into the storm driving a Dodge Neon company car. Had snows on all four wheels and the driver ( me ) figured if he got stuck it was the newspaper's problem. Drove it all over the hills ( mountains ) in North Van, including unplowed side roads. Never did get stuck, but I did find myself backing down a couple of hills.
It was our job to go places others were avoiding.
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01-09-2015, 10:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
I'll give you the edge on fuel economy for sure, but no way on handling. I would gladly set up road track in winter conditions, and have a race. I just loves me doing some four wheel drifters around corners in the deep snow.
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I was really talking about the rest of the time, rather than in poor winter conditions, but for control I'll still take the car even in the slop and and on the ice. Tall trucks obviously handle poorly compared to low and light cars, especially when there's decent traction. Also, I agree that deep snow is the time for large diameter tires and lots of ground clearance (even without driving all the wheels)... we just don't get that very often.
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01-09-2015, 10:37 PM
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Flip.. it's cold, it' snowin' the roads are more ice than pavement... I'm staying home You don't have to convince me. it's my life, my health, my deductible on the vehicle. Be safe, be sane everyone!
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01-09-2015, 10:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Flip.. it's cold, it' snowin' the roads are more ice than pavement... I'm staying home You don't have to convince me. it's my life, my health, my deductible on the vehicle. Be safe, be sane everyone!
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Good advice. I used to be a snowmobiler, figured with a 6600 lbs 1 ton 4x4 Ford truck, a 2100 pound camper in the bed, and chains on all four wheels, I figured not a huge problem to cross over Mt Hood in line with all the other 5 mph semi trucks during an ice storm.
Then the wiper arm fell off on the drivers side.................
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01-09-2015, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tractors1
Then the wiper arm fell off on the drivers side.................
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I discovered that I could move the rear window wiper to the driver side front when the wiper on my Ford Exploder departed at 100 kph.
Not sure that would work on all vehicles, but it's worth a shot.
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01-09-2015, 11:03 PM
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In Alberta, if you don't like the weather, wait 5 minutes. If you don't like the politics, wait 50 years.
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01-10-2015, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian B-P
I was really talking about the rest of the time, rather than in poor winter conditions.... .
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And here I thought this thread was about winter conditions. My bad...........
Do you use this same car to pull your trailer too?
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01-10-2015, 01:22 AM
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I'm resigned to the fact that weather is going to happen. I've gotten to the point that I'm not really paying attention to the weather report on the late news.
"Light in the morning and afternoon, becoming dark toward evening."
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01-10-2015, 07:00 AM
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Besides, if we never did anything, especially camping, due to the weather, we would likely be sitting at home almost all the time.
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01-10-2015, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Do you use this same car to pull your trailer too?
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Of course not. But very little of the use of 4x4 trucks in Alberta is to tow trailers... and all those people we were talking about in the ditches aren't towing.
This is one of the big challenges of vehicles: finding the right compromise between all of the different road conditions and uses. As the tire discussion shows, the same compromise challenge extends to every component of the vehicle as well.
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01-19-2015, 11:38 AM
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YES! The daffodils are up about four inches and the blueberry buds are starting to swell! A high temperature today of around 65F. I just hope we don't have any more nights below freezing. Sometimes I think my brother was wise when he retired, (in Illinois), and said he didn't want to move to Pensacola because it was "too cold" here - he moved to Bonita Springs where he was sure to be out of any more freezing weather - and he says he's never missed it for a moment.
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01-19-2015, 05:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Besides, if we never did anything, especially camping, due to the weather, we would likely be sitting at home almost all the time.
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I have a cure for that Jim. We have a 12 month camping season.
I know, I know, your skin would melt.
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01-19-2015, 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
I have a cure for that Jim. We have a 12 month camping season.
I know, I know, your skin would melt.
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My skin only melts in your summers.
But, we have 12 months of camping too. In winter the trailer just gets traded for skis and a tent.
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01-20-2015, 08:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
My skin only melts in your summers.
But, we have 12 months of camping too. In winter the trailer just gets traded for skis and a tent.
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And there are no Dometic fridge cooling issues, you don't need to worry whether the food will stay cold, it does whether you like it or not.
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01-20-2015, 08:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ice-breaker
And there are no Dometic fridge cooling issues, you don't need to worry whether the food will stay cold, it does whether you like it or not.
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Yeah, but I have been out camping at near -40° a couple times. The rum was very hard slush (sure glad it was in a wide-mouth Nalgene bottle a spoon could get in), the apples shattered when hit with a machete, wood split super easy, and by far the toughest material at that temp, is cheddar cheese. Even the machete hardly put a mark on it. This is when I learned to pre-slice the cheese before leaving on a winter trek.
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01-20-2015, 09:44 AM
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You take a machete camping ?
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01-20-2015, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
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You take a machete camping ?
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LOL, who doesn't !
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01-20-2015, 09:54 AM
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We just take a good knife ...and a sharpener !
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