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Old 12-15-2017, 10:20 PM   #21
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Glad that I could be of some help / assistance to you , that seems to be a rare occurence.
Not as rare as you think. Besides, if we agreed on everything it would get boring.
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I remember staying at my grandmothers home near Pittsburgh which had a coal furnace. She told me stories about during the depression era going down to the rail tracks where the coal cars would go by and some friendly men would unload some free coal for the residents gathering up around the tracks. Her coal furnace was either on or off, there was no thermostat.
If it got too hot we just opened the window some more, got cold we closed the window.
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Old 12-16-2017, 09:38 AM   #23
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I remember staying at my grandmothers home near Pittsburgh which had a coal furnace. She told me stories about during the depression era going down to the rail tracks where the coal cars would go by and some friendly men would unload some free coal for the residents gathering up around the tracks. Her coal furnace was either on or off, there was no thermostat.
If it got too hot we just opened the window some more, got cold we closed the window.
Hi: cpaharley2008... We were fortunate to have a mid 40's coal furnace. The thermostat was a pair of chains that came up from the basement. One marked "Draft" for more heat and one marked "Check" for less!!! Many 4 am's I would be awakened by my fathers cranking the grates and shoveling the ashes out of the fire box into the sifter to recover small bits of coal. Then he'd stoke up the fire for our comfort before heading off to work at 5 am. We were blessed with a warm house to get up to.
The natural gas replacement had no nostalgia chained to it!!! Alf
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Old 12-16-2017, 09:53 AM   #24
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I taught heating / cooling calculations and design for several years.
The application in residential & commercial building is slightly different then in a trailer but the principles are the basically the same.
Glad that I could be of some help / assistance to you , that seems to be a rare occurence.

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Old 12-16-2017, 12:27 PM   #25
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Hi: cpaharley2008... We were fortunate to have a mid 40's coal furnace. The thermostat was a pair of chains that came up from the basement. One marked "Draft" for more heat and one marked "Check" for less!!! Many 4 am's I would be awakened by my fathers cranking the grates and shoveling the ashes out of the fire box into the sifter to recover small bits of coal. Then he'd stoke up the fire for our comfort before heading off to work at 5 am. We were blessed with a warm house to get up to.
The natural gas replacement had no nostalgia chained to it!!! Alf
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We heat with wood. The closest natural gas runs along the highway , 3 miles north of us. When we wake up in the morning our cabin / home is between 50 & 58 degrees F unless it's 20 or 30 below outside then it's colder inside.
First thing we do in the morning is pump a bucket of water , make coffee , shovel ashes out of the wood stove and start a fire.
By 7 AM the fire is going and the cabin temps are rising.
Natural gas will never have the ambience of a wood fire plus when the power goes out in the middle of winter our wood stove still works.
Looking out the window at our supply of firewood and knowing we can make the winter gives me a very warm and comforting feeling.
Surviving another winter gives me a feeling of pride and accomplishment . When I am too old to beat old man winter , I hope God will take me to a better place , still cold just better !


It has not been cold enough for the snow fleas to come out of hibernation but soon they will be out and about .
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Snow fleas? I'll bite, please elaborate. BTW it's ironic that we spend half our life keeping warm but try to avoid the warm spot in afterlife....??
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Old 12-16-2017, 01:07 PM   #27
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Snow fleas? I'll bite, please elaborate. BTW it's ironic that we spend half our life keeping warm but try to avoid the warm spot in afterlife....??
Look up snow fleas on the Web. You can see them hopping around on top of the snow . They look like little black flecks of dirt and in a bumper year , the snow looks grey.
I agree , in most religions if your evil you are sent to a place where it is hot and dry when you die. Some just choose to go there early and witness Hell here on earth !
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Look up snow fleas on the Web. You can see them hopping around on top of the snow . They look like little black flecks of dirt and in a bumper year , the snow looks grey.
I agree , in most religions if your evil you are sent to a place where it is hot and dry when you die. Some just choose to go there early and witness Hell here on earth !
Hi: steve dunham... Don't kid yourself... We're there NOW!!! Alf... reaching for my gas fireplace remote control.
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Hi: cpaharley2008... We were fortunate to have a mid 40's coal furnace. The thermostat was a pair of chains that came up from the basement. One marked "Draft" for more heat and one marked "Check" for less!!! Many 4 am's I would be awakened by my fathers cranking the grates and shoveling the ashes out of the fire box into the sifter to recover small bits of coal. Then he'd stoke up the fire for our comfort before heading off to work at 5 am. We were blessed with a warm house to get up to.
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I also added a coal stove after fuel shortages in the late 70’s. It was a Franko Belge model from France burning pea coal. I lit it on Thanksgiving and it burned 24/7 until Easter. We kept a window open an inch, top and bottom at the other end of the house. The colder the temp, the better the draft and the hotter it burned. 1 ton per winter.
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I used a wood stove to heat my house between 1976 - 2010, at which point natural gas got less expensive than wood (and a lot easier!)

When I was growing up between the age of 5 - 10, we had a central coal furnace. One output - a 3' diameter grill in the floor that got hot enough to burn feet. As the oldest, my father passed on shoveling coal to me around the age of 7. The biggest problem was getting past the exploding homemade root beer bottles between the basement stairs & the furnace, but that is a different story...
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