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12-03-2014, 03:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
Tempted to try my bolt cutter on it...
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That might work. If it is too hard or too thick, it looks like an easy target for a saw or abrasive cutting wheel. Among other problems, this design really doesn't look like much of a deterrent for thieves willing to use serious tools.
Just found an online review:
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"Didn't take much to break this item at the round bar that attaches this to my trailer. Moved the trailer slightly. Heard and snap and the round bar snapped where the pin inserts. This is a visual deterrent only. One revolution and this item is broken off and the thieves have your trailer."
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12-03-2014, 03:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,130
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I was expecting the "alternate bike storag on tongue" to take a detour in this direction. What do you have to do to secure bikes, especially with a clamp-on bike rack?
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
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12-03-2014, 03:45 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,239
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
Tempted to try my bolt cutter on it...
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Why make work of it? A small grinder with metal cutting disk--effortless
Ron
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12-03-2014, 04:57 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,098
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Das Boot
Am using this and Reece coupler lock. Easy to store when separated. Despite the name it's made in Nanaimo, B.C. Bought it at Westar near ETI.
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12-03-2014, 06:56 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 17b/ 2012 Chevy Colorado
Posts: 736
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We went with this.
Rittenhouse | Heavy Duty Wheel Lock - Boot Wheel Lock
No weak point cuttable with a bolt cutter, and this thing is HEAVY. Will it work?
We'll see.
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12-03-2014, 07:09 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Des Plaines, Illinois
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19 (TV: 2007 Chevy Tahoe)
Posts: 207
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I have a simple hitch lock on our trailer. If someone wants the trailer, they'll find a way to take it. I think a simple hammer blow would destroy part of the lock casting. I just want to make it less attractive to steal than the trailer next to me.
Those large wheel locks probably delive a message that the next guy is an easier target....interesting...
I also like the idea of a tracking device. Or better yet, putting a sticker on the trailer that informs a would be theif it has a tracking device, even though it doesn't.
Gary
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12-03-2014, 07:11 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Des Plaines, Illinois
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19 (TV: 2007 Chevy Tahoe)
Posts: 207
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Oops...."i" before "e" except after "c"....my bad.
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12-03-2014, 09:40 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pkgman51
Oops...."i" before "e" except after "c"....my bad.
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Except in Codeine...
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2008 Outlaw Oliver Legacy Elite
2014 Outlaw Oliver Legacy Elite II
2022 Silverado High Country 3500HD Diesel 4x4
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12-03-2014, 10:55 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Longview, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15B - 2014 Nissan Frontier SL
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scubarx
Except in Codeine...
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I think because the derivation is from the Greek and hence a non English spelling. The rhyme is generally applied to English spellings.
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2013 Escape 15B
2014 Nissan Frontier, Previous 2012 Santa Fe
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12-03-2014, 11:16 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,130
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scubarx
Except in Codeine...
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Weird, isn't it?
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
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12-04-2014, 04:38 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Prescott Valley, Arizona
Trailer: Escape #2 - 2017 ‘21; 2018 Silverado 2500 (diesel, crew cab, long box, 4X4, SnugTop, air bags)
Posts: 135
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Well played, Gbaglo.
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12-04-2014, 05:45 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 10,859
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scubarx
Except in Codeine...
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And in Budweiser
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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12-04-2014, 08:29 AM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,139
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That Rittenhouse tire clamp.... it looks like the locking key is for one of them circular "barrel" keys ... didn't I read someplace they can be easily picked with a ball point pen?
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"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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12-04-2014, 10:22 AM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,098
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From Lockpickguide.com:
Picking barrel locks: These offer a very high amount of security for their price. They come in both 7 or 8 pin varieties, and rarely 6 pin. They are nearly impossible to pick without a special type of pick(although some say they have done it, whatever), and very difficult to pick with one.
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12-04-2014, 01:36 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA (Little Elsie) Extensively Personalized
Posts: 2,749
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pkgman51
Oops...."i" before "e" except after "c"....my bad.
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That rule apparently didn't apply in ancient times.
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What a long strange trip it’s been!
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12-05-2014, 01:17 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: ottawa, Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 43
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Back to the subject of trailer security, does anyone know the lug bolt thread
pattern on our wheels? I have the aluminum 15 inch rims. I seem to remember it
was posted previously but I have not been able to find it. This discussion on
trailer security has encouraged me to place keyed lug nuts to add another
deterrent to would be thieves. ( at least to wheel theft ).
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12-05-2014, 01:22 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
Posts: 1,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robertg
Back to the subject of trailer security, does anyone know the lug bolt thread
pattern on our wheels? I have the aluminum 15 inch rims. I seem to remember it
was posted previously but I have not been able to find it. This discussion on
trailer security has encouraged me to place keyed lug nuts to add another
deterrent to would be thieves. ( at least to wheel theft ).
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Why not replace your wheels with blocks for the storage season
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12-05-2014, 01:28 PM
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#39
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: ottawa, Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 43
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Trailer is secured in my back yard inside a 20X30 coverall that I recently installed for
that purpose.
I was thinking about when travelling and leaving the trailer vulnerable to thieves at times
as when we are away from the camping area. I have keyed lug nuts on my truck.
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12-05-2014, 01:32 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robertg
Back to the subject of trailer security, does anyone know the lug bolt thread pattern on our wheels? I have the aluminum 15 inch rims. I seem to remember it was posted previously but I have not been able to find it.
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Escape uses (at least currently and for some time) exclusively Dexter Axle hardware. In the #10 Torflex used on all models other than the 5.0TA, and on the related D35 beam axle used on the 5.0TA, Dexter's studs are 1/2-20 (that's 1/2", 20 threads per inch) with a 60-degree conical nut seat, all right-hand-thread. This is really common... for trailers and for older pickup trucks.
Although in some cases different nuts are used with aluminum wheels, I don't think this applies to Dexter axles... but the thread would be the same, anyway.
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