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Old 01-11-2017, 11:03 AM   #101
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H46Driver,All I can say is please don't do it! The safest most viable route this time of year (especially this year) is the 5 with the 101 as an alternate. Safe Travels.Tin
I respectfully disagree! The "safest route" is to have your camper delivered to your doorstep. We had to swallow hard when we wrote the check for delivery, but given a completion date in mid-Winter coupled with our desire to have it in time for an early Spring rally, the uncertainty of winter weather between Chilliwack and Alabama, and other conflicting and complicating personal obligations, we chose to have our new 21' delivered to us. The good news is it should be in pristine condition with zero miles on it, and less winter wear and tear on our tow vehicle, when it is unloaded in our driveway. Right or wrong, good or bad, that's the "safe route" we chose. We'll still get to Chilliwack some day - when the weather is nice, the roads are clear and we can enjoy a leisurely trip.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:12 AM   #102
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Living in the part of the US that gets 150"-200" of snow each winter, I have some experience driving in snow. For those that have not driven a vehicle with real snow tires on all 4 wheels, it does make a difference. The "All Weather" tires sold today don't do snow any near as well as real snow tires.

As to ice, I hate it. We often spent much of mid winter driving on an inch or two of hard packed snow with no problems, but just a little ice will even stop experienced north country drivers. My only accident was caused by a patch of ice on a dry road.

As to snow being beautiful, there is a wonderful bit with various names - here is a link to one of them - "Diary of a Snow Shoveler". Might be the reason I'm currently in Quartzsite rather than Oswego!
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:22 AM   #103
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As to ice, I hate it. We often spent much of mid winter driving on an inch or two of hard packed snow with no problems, but just a little ice will even stop experienced north country drivers. My only accident was caused by a patch of ice on a dry road.
So very true, Jon. It was a patch of ice that caused and accident that took my son-in-laws life while driving a big rig near a year ago, and he was very experienced in driving under all conditions.

Snow, packed or not, driven with caution is no problem.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:34 AM   #104
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I'm SO glad you got through Portland before last night. We've got a foot of snow on the ground right now and it's still snowing. ALL vehicles must have chains for the surface streets.

The weather looks much better the further south in Oregon. We'll get above freezing over the weekend, then rain (so they say.)
Well, crap, to put it mildly. I've been watching Siskiyou thinking that it was looking good, getting cleared very quickly etc. We're hoping to leave here on Friday which puts us through Portland on Saturday morning.

What do you mean by "surface streets"? Does that include highways under Federal jurisdiction and responsibility to clear even if Portland itself is lacking in street clearing equipment.

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Old 01-11-2017, 11:49 AM   #105
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Well, crap, to put it mildly. I've been watching Siskiyou thinking that it was looking good, getting cleared very quickly etc. We're hoping to leave here on Friday which puts us through Portland on Saturday morning.

What do you mean by "surface streets"? Does that include highways under Federal jurisdiction and responsibility to clear even if Portland itself is lacking in street clearing equipment.

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All state roads, including I-5, I-405, I-205, I-84, Hwy 26. The Feds don't clear our roads. Portland Department of Transportation does the work. ODOT doesn't even come into the city for this.

Remember: This isn't just for highways. Surface streets like Powell Boulevard, Southwest Barbur Boulevard and 82nd Avenue are, indeed, state roads.


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Old 01-11-2017, 12:11 PM   #106
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Thanks for clarifying that Donna. Hopefully the chain requirement will be lifted by Sat.

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Old 01-11-2017, 01:23 PM   #107
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The good news is it should be in pristine condition with zero miles on it, and less winter wear and tear on our tow vehicle, when it is unloaded in our driveway.

Actually, Dave, the truck driver has to drive through the same weather and he too may become delayed. I believe he drives East as far as he can in Canada and then drops down in Manitoba to go south. Having had 2 Escapes delivered, it will not be in pristine condition, it will be dirty and depending on its position on the trailer, the front or rear and sides will be covered with bugs and salt other road debris. A good wash however will bring back the shine. Good luck and give Dave a tip for bringing it to you in the winter, he deserves it.
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Old 01-11-2017, 01:32 PM   #108
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Fred, ............ Granzellas Deli in Williams. It's about 60 miles north of Vacaville. They've got an RV friendly parking lot and a huge deli. Great sandwiches and maybe the best muffuletta West of Na'lins! Safe Travels.
If your travels ever take you to Nawlins the best place to get a muffuletta is Central Grocery & Deli on Decatur Street in business since 1906. If you don't know what a muffaletta is it's a dinner plate–sized Italian sandwich piled with ham, mortadella, salami, provolone, Swiss and home made olive salad on Sicilian sesame bread. Bring your appetite or share with your loved one.
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Old 01-11-2017, 03:57 PM   #109
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If your travels ever take you to Nawlins the best place to get a muffuletta is Central Grocery & Deli on Decatur Street in business since 1906. If you don't know what a muffaletta is it's a dinner plate–sized Italian sandwich piled with ham, mortadella, salami, provolone, Swiss and home made olive salad on Sicilian sesame bread. Bring your appetite or share with your loved one.
I Couldn't agree more, Mike & Donna, We've only been to New Orleans 3 times, but each time, at least one visit to Central Grocery. Last time, we bought one to-go. We ate 1/4 each for lunch, and 1/4 each on the plane ride home.....MMMM! 23 years ago, we mail ordered a dozen full size sandwiches and added them to our Buffett for our oldest daughters H.S. Graduation Party. They were the hit!!!

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Old 01-11-2017, 04:20 PM   #110
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... Good luck and give Dave a tip for bringing it to you in the winter, he deserves it.
Is Dave the driver who likes Italian food? We have a couple really great Italian restaurants nearby if he has the time for us to treat him to dinner. Oh, and we're pretty sure the other 21' on our load is headed to Tennessee, so if it is dropped off first, on the way down to us, that means ours will be on the front of the trailer and, as you mentioned, probably covered in road grime by the time it gets here. We'll be ready ready to give it a good cleaning when it arrives....
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Dah! Sorry TDF-TEXAS...we never saw you on I5. When the freeway split is when we passed each other. We were ready to take your photo. Dang!
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Oh, and we're pretty sure the other 21' on our load is headed to Tennessee, so if it is dropped off first, on the way down to us, that means ours will be on the front of the trailer and, as you mentioned, probably covered in road grime by the time it gets here. We'll be ready ready to give it a good cleaning when it arrives....
The one coming to Tennessee is a 19'. We know the people very well.

I don't know if a 21' would fit on Dave's truck if he still has the same one. It will probably be on the trailer.
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Yes, Dave likes Italian and be sure the parking lot is big enough for his rig, it is pretty long.
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This just posted on one of our major news stations KATU: Gov. Brown declares a state of emergency for Oregon. . One of my friends lives just southwest of me about 5 miles as the crow flies, she just posted on Facebook, it's snowing AGAIN (or still) at her house!

I JUST got in the house about 10 minute ago from shoveling the front steps, part of the driveway and the sidewalk!

On edit... it's snowing here too now
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I respectfully disagree! The "safest route" is to have your camper delivered to your doorstep. We had to swallow hard when we wrote the check for delivery, but given a completion date in mid-Winter coupled with our desire to have it in time for an early Spring rally, the uncertainty of winter weather between Chilliwack and Alabama, and other conflicting and complicating personal obligations, we chose to have our new 21' delivered to us. The good news is it should be in pristine condition with zero miles on it, and less winter wear and tear on our tow vehicle, when it is unloaded in our driveway. Right or wrong, good or bad, that's the "safe route" we chose. We'll still get to Chilliwack some day - when the weather is nice, the roads are clear and we can enjoy a leisurely trip.
I am sure that it will be worth every cent to you to get that trailer delivered instead of going up there. Even in several weeks in the summer, we seemed to need more time for the return. You can have a good trip later. Just wash the dirt off and enjoy your trailer.
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This just posted on one of our major news stations KATU: Gov. Brown declares a state of emergency for Oregon. . One of my friends lives just southwest of me about 5 miles as the crow flies, she just posted on Facebook, it's snowing AGAIN (or still) at her house!

I JUST got in the house about 10 minute ago from shoveling the front steps, part of the driveway and the sidewalk!

On edit... it's snowing here too now


Wow! Well, we made it to Seven Feathers Casino. Maybe we can head to the coast when we get to Salem and go around Portland. We have extra days buffered in. Don't have our orientation date unto Jan 16th.



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This just posted on one of our major news stations KATU: Gov. Brown declares a state of emergency for Oregon. . One of my friends lives just southwest of me about 5 miles as the crow flies, she just posted on Facebook, it's snowing AGAIN (or still) at her house!

I JUST got in the house about 10 minute ago from shoveling the front steps, part of the driveway and the sidewalk!

On edit... it's snowing here too now
This weather is so surprising for your area. And had to be with all of these people picking up.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:09 PM   #118
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Dah! Sorry TDF-TEXAS...we never saw you on I5. When the freeway split is when we passed each other. We were ready to take your photo. Dang!
Fred- looks like tomorrow is a dash through Portland day!
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On edit... it's snowing here too now
At least it is not freezing rain again.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:10 PM   #120
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Would someone PLEASE turn off the weather machine up there before we leave San Antonio next week!! Pretty sure Fred and Dora would like it turned off NOW!
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