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Old 08-26-2015, 10:19 AM   #51
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My Tundra 1794 is a CrewMax. The Anderson Ultimate hitch,theoretically, has two pivot points but not in practicality. The only one that rotates when turning is the one connecting the trailer to the Anderson hitch. The other one (connecting the hitch to the truck) is, in essence, fixed as it never rotates. Actually, Reece was the one who put me on to this one when he visited the Bluebonnet rally in Bandera a few months ago. He had a demo with him. I liked it, went home and studied it, and decided to get it. Dennis at Escape who installed it for me said that mine was the first one he installed...but he liked it. Hitching is just like hooking up a trailer: you have to align the ball and hitch, then lower the 5th wheel onto the ball. Actually, quite simple.
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Old 08-26-2015, 11:45 PM   #52
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The original Andersen Ulitmate 5th Wheel Solution is unique among commercially produced systems because the ball is at about the height of a fifth-wheel hitch head. I see that they now offer extended coupler tubes so the coupler can be used with a ball mounted down at bed floor level - there are many brands of hardware to do the same thing.

I notice that they also offer safety chains, which is relevant to earlier discussions: yes, safety chains are required with any ball hitch in many areas (provinces and states). I wouldn't use their mounting system, since it seems to me that in the unlikely case that the coupler fails to stay attached to the king pin the safety chains won't help, because they're attached to the same hardware.

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As I understand it the Andersen Ultimate hitch has two pivot points, one at the trailer hitch pin and one at the 2-5/16 hitch ball - how does that work when backing? Wouldn't the pressure on the hitch allow the connector between these two pivot points to swap ends?
No, and no...

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The Anderson Ultimate hitch,theoretically, has two pivot points but not in practicality. The only one that rotates when turning is the one connecting the trailer to the Anderson hitch. The other one (connecting the hitch to the truck) is, in essence, fixed as it never rotates.
I'm not sure that was clear - try this:
The coupler which is part of this system is clamped rigidly onto the trailer's pin, so there is no movement between them; it converts the pin box to a coupler-equipped tongue and the pin is no longer relevant to how the hitch works. The only pivot point is the 2-5/16" hitch ball, so there's no problem pushing or moving in any direction.

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Actually, Reece was the one who put me on to this one when he visited the Bluebonnet rally in Bandera a few months ago. He had a demo with him. I liked it, went home and studied it, and decided to get it. Dennis at Escape who installed it for me said that mine was the first one he installed...but he liked it.
The Andersen Ultimate has been discussed in this forum as early as April 2014 (in 5th wheel hitch) and perhaps earlier. Perhaps that's how Reace heard about it?
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Old 10-08-2015, 10:38 PM   #53
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MacMan, I'm thinking you have the 5.7 which is rated 13/17 so I feel 15 on the road towing is not bad at all! I'm picking up my 21 in four weeks and will report my mileage for comparison.

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Between two trips we've towed our 21 about 1,500 miles so far and have averaged 12 mpg (calculating by hand). Sometimes we got 11.8 & other times 12.2. On-board computer says I was getting 13.4. So MacMan if you're basing your 15 mpg on the computer I'll bet in reality you're not getting that. But I'm in the Pacific Northwest where everywhere is up and/or down and I don't exactly take it easy going up the mountains.

The "miles to empty" indicator is just as inaccurate as the fuel mileage. When it says I have zero miles remaining I fill up and it takes just under 20 gallons (towing or not). Gas tank is 26.4 gallons. One tank on the last trip I went about 40 miles after reaching zero miles and it took 22 gallons. I understand they're typically a little conservative but 25% is ridiculous.

Otherwise the truck does great and is definitely more than I need. But I knew that from the beginning which is why I bought it as I'd rather have too much truck than "just enough".
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Old 10-08-2015, 11:04 PM   #54
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T&R, sounds like you are satisfied....despite the mileage issue. Yes, I based my mileage on the Tundra's automatic calculation it gave me. That's good enough for me as I'm not too anal about that kind of stuff: it is what it is.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:26 PM   #55
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Digging up an old thread here, but I have an important related question that was touched upon here.

Just purchased a ESCAPE 5.0 (first gen single axle) with the axle rise option.

Anyone here pulling it with a second gen tundra (2007 and later) with 4wd?

I am looking to buy a 2017 Toyota Tundra SR Double Cab 5.7 V8, 4wd. I am not concerned about the power, there is plenty of it.

Does the vehicle in question clear the fifth wheel height OK? That is, the bed rail height.

Thank you for your help!
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Old 09-23-2017, 05:18 PM   #56
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MacMan, oilhead and any other Tundra short bed drivers with the 5.0TA..... Are you happy with the Anderson set up? Any regrets? Any times on backing up or otherwise where you almost hit the cab or rails? I have a 2017 Tundra 1794 and will be picking up 2018 5.0TA....I am liking the Anderson set up.... what say you after a few years of experience? Thank you.
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Old 09-23-2017, 06:03 PM   #57
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Honair, yes, I am very happy with the Anderson hitch. And, knock on wood, have not yet either backed into the hitch or pulled away with the tailgate still up. That has been a fear (nightmare) of mine but to date I've not made that stupid mistake.
My wife is super with her hand signals: she never says a word when I am backing up to hitch-up or pull away.
If I had to do it all over again - I would do it just the same. I love it. I can't tell you how many people in the RV parks that have come along and thought it was pretty slick. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Honair, yes, I am very happy with the Anderson hitch. And, knock on wood, have not yet either backed into the hitch or pulled away with the tailgate still up. That has been a fear (nightmare) of mine but to date I've not made that stupid mistake.
My wife is super with her hand signals: she never says a word when I am backing up to hitch-up or pull away.
If I had to do it all over again - I would do it just the same. I love it. I can't tell you how many people in the RV parks that have come along and thought it was pretty slick. Let me know if you have any other questions.
You drive with the tail gate down? Seemingly I do not yet understand the process.

Separately, which Anderson do you have and how is attached to the bed of the truck. Rails or bed level gooseneck ball? I saw 5.0TA two weeks ago with a Tacoma.... and the Anderson was just on rails.... no goose neck ball at all.

Trademasters has recommended a B and W gooseneck under bed ball.... and the Anderson 3220.

Thank you for your time and information.
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Old 09-23-2017, 10:26 PM   #59
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You drive with the tail gate down? Seemingly I do not yet understand the process.
He is referring to when hitching up or parking. The tailgate has to be open when backing in off pulling away from the pin.

I have had the same worry myself.
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Old 09-24-2017, 06:51 PM   #60
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I have the Anderson 3220 (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Andersen-...&wl13=&veh=sem). Yes, I have the gooseneck ball.
Obviously I don't drive with the tailgate down. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Sorry about that.
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