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Old 07-19-2016, 05:12 PM   #11
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It looks like this is what may have changed - note the update is just a week old for these regs. A terribly tough situation for both buyers and Escape http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/maninfo/trailer002.pdf
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Old 07-19-2016, 05:15 PM   #12
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Rule Change?

Hi: All... What would happen if during a World Series game the "Gubermint" changed the rules... Eh? Alf
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Old 07-19-2016, 05:22 PM   #13
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It looks like this is what may have changed - note the update is just a week old for these regs. A terribly tough situation for both buyers and Escape http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/maninfo/trailer002.pdf
Hi: Janet H... Thanks for the link. This is protectionism at it's best... and I only read to page 5!!! Alf
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Old 07-19-2016, 05:24 PM   #14
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If anyone wants a idea of complexity of the regulatory process involved, have a look at NHTSA's web page for this: Manufacturer Info | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). No, I haven't even read the several regulations involved, but they're linked on the NHTSA page if anyone wants to get a real understanding.

Personally, I doubt that a political process will speed things up, or that there is excessive bureaucracy involved - I like the close management of vehicle manufacturers, because there is a lot at stake in vehicle operation. It looks like a glitch in the process has occurred, and while a fix to speed up the registration process may be possible by the right NHTSA administrator, a bunch of ranting is not likely to lead to the right person to cause the desired action; it certainly won't change rules which are already in effect or processes which are already working for other manufacturers.

NHTSA offers a VIN Decoder; I was not previously aware of this. I tried my car's VIN and it worked well, but for a sample Escape VIN it reports
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Error Code: 7 - Manufacturer is not registered with NHTSA for sale or importation in the U.S. for use on U.S roads; Please contact the manufacturer directly for more information.
... which is, as Sarah explained, the problem.
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Old 07-19-2016, 05:38 PM   #15
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I wonder, but I think it is more a case of government bureaucracy just creating more bureaucracy because that is really all they do. The bureaucracy doesn't solve problems, or prevent problems from occurring it just jumps in after the fact with an insatiable demand for documentation. Individual employees in the government don't have the incentive to make things more efficient or the authority to decide that a rule doesn't make sense, they just have to make sure the correct documentation is provided and they will get to reading it whenever they can.
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Old 07-19-2016, 05:43 PM   #16
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Damn! We just squeezed thru as the gate was closing! Picked up 7-11, not a hint of trouble.

Those waiting, please be patient, we ADORE our 21, and you'll love your new one when the gate reopens. Sorry for Tammy and Reace and those on the road or getting ready to head up to pick up.

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Old 07-19-2016, 05:48 PM   #17
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Boy would I be mad if I had paid for my trailer and because of some bureaucratic nightmare like this I had to wait another eight weeks. Originally before we decided to purchase the Bigfoot 25B21FB travel trailer in February we had a delivery date of Aug 17 2016 for a 5.0 TA or we would be right now sitting this same mess. I sure hope everything works out quickly for ETI and for everyone concerned
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Old 07-19-2016, 05:49 PM   #18
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Years ago I manufactured a marine product and it ended up selling very well in the U.S. I exported for several years without any difficulties. Then suddenly, the export rules changed for me. Not impossible to comply with but much more onerous. I did wonder and had some suspicions about what prompted the rule change.

I can't help wonder if ETI's success and inroads into the U.S. market share hasn't resulted in one or more U.S. manufacturer complaining to their local rep. Probably paranoid to think that, on the other hand, business is business.

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I wonder if it is possible to go back to the procedure several years ago whereby trailers were picked up by the new US owners and transported (imported) by the individual..Of course this would not help those who have a delivery scheduled...what a bunch of bureaucratic nonsense.
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I wonder, but I think it is more a case of government bureaucracy just creating more bureaucracy because that is really all they do.
You realize that the clean water you drink is result of bureaucracy eh?
And your food isn't contaminated with e-coli because of bureaucracy? And the steering wheel shaft isn't piercing your chest because of bureaucracy?
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