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Old 04-30-2016, 01:49 PM   #21
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Thank you, thank you!! for this info. I've been about to post a question about this for a while -- we need a generator at our summer cabin: unreliable power grid and a fridge and freezer full of food (not to mention -- the unmentionable sewer pump...). Since we already have propane for the grill, and shortly for the 5.0TA (Tuesday!), and because gasoline is obnoxious, we definitely want to pursue the conversion.
Overall I am very happy with the propane conversion

Just be aware that it runs slightly differently.

Subtle - but I suspect that it may have slightly less "oomph" on propane

Plus I have never run it at high altitude. It may run less well there.

Just be sure to research it - and maybe call the conversion kit company I mentioned above.

And .... I bought a big Tupperware container at Home Depot to fit it al in. Protects the conversion bits that jut out the bottom.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:29 PM   #22
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Subtle - but I suspect that it may have slightly less "oomph" on propane
Definitely true. I have a Tri-fuel generator from Northern Tools powered bu Honda. 6,500 wattsxwith surge to 8,000. The manual states that each fuel has a different output, with gasoline having the most oomph, propane in second place, and natural gas having the least.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:42 PM   #23
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I have a Tri-fuel generator from Northern Tools powered bu Honda. 6,500 wattsxwith surge to 8,000. The manual states that each fuel has a different output, with gasoline having the most oomph, propane in second place, and natural gas having the least.
That's expected with engines like this, which have vapour carburetors. Gasoline is delivered to the engine as a mist of liquid. The propane and natural gas go in as vapour, so they take up space that would otherwise be air. The maximum power produced is limited by how much fuel is burned, and that is limited by how much air can be taken in, and the vapour fuel is competing with air for space. Natural gas (which is methane and some ethane) is less dense than propane, so it takes up even more space... so less power.

This reduced power isn't an efficiency concern: there's less power, but proportionately less fuel burned.

Turbocharging fixes this, but of course small generators don't have turbochargers.
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Old 04-30-2016, 05:08 PM   #24
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Overall I am very happy with the propane conversion

Just be aware that it runs slightly differently.

Subtle - but I suspect that it may have slightly less "oomph" on propane

Plus I have never run it at high altitude. It may run less well there.

Just be sure to research it - and maybe call the conversion kit company I mentioned above.

And .... I bought a big Tupperware container at Home Depot to fit it al in. Protects the conversion bits that jut out the bottom.
Thanks for the pointers -- esp. the idea to put it in a plastic tub for protection. I'll post when we've done it and had some experience.
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Old 05-06-2016, 03:38 PM   #25
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Just wanted to add that we experimented running the 11,500 BTU Duotherm A/C unit with a Honda EU2000i on a recently acquired 2010 19' and it worked just fine. Granted this is near sea level. Can't run the microwave at the same time though which was to be expected. Can't beat the Honda 2000 for portability, reliability and ease of use.
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Just wanted to add that we experimented running the 11,500 BTU Duotherm A/C unit with a Honda EU2000i on a recently acquired 2010 19' and it worked just fine. Granted this is near sea level. Can't run the microwave at the same time though which was to be expected. Can't beat the Honda 2000 for portability, reliability and ease of use.
Correction to my post just to avoid any confusion: The A/C unit is 11,000 BTU with 10.5 RLA (rated load amps). For those that don't know the Honda EU2000i is rated at 13.3A (1600W) continuous with a max of 16.7A (2000W) which is recommended for no more than 30 minutes.
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Good info. Will add to my list. I like the idea of a two way generator. May convert my home unit as well.
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Good info. Will add to my list. I like the idea of a two way generator. May convert my home unit as well.
The nicest thing about a propane / gas generator is that gasoline goes "off" after 6 months... propane *never* does.

our Honda 2000 sure does run cleanly on propane.

there is a reason that the 2000 is so popular. It is a great unit
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Old 05-09-2016, 03:03 PM   #29
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Does the honda 2000i run the air condition if it has been switched to propane instead of gasoline?
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:31 PM   #30
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Does the honda 2000i run the air condition if it has been switched to propane instead of gasoline?
Great question. It will be interesting to see if anyone has done it. I can say that I wouldn't want to run the 11,000 BTU Duotherm on anything less than the Honda EU2000i running on gasoline. It is right in the sweet spot for constant generator load. Propane has an energy content 74% that of gasoline. A propane conversion website that I found claims (of course) that there is no loss in power and fuel consumption is nearly the same. This is just simply not possible. Even if it did barely run the A/C you would be working the machine very hard. Altitude would make it even worse. General rule is 10% derate for every 3,000 feet. I'd love to hear real-world experience with propane, but absent that I would leave the Honda alone or be prepared to revert to gasoline to run the A/C if you feel compelled to do the conversion.
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