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Old 08-31-2019, 09:48 AM   #1
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Classic vs Current Style Escape Trailers?

I see references to 'classic' escape trailers but do not know the details. When did the factory change over to the current style, and what are the differences? Are there any improvements that I, as owner of a 2010 17B, should consider installing?
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:00 AM   #2
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The changes started in later 2016. The main difference is the body shape, which has straighter sidewalls and a note modem design in the eyes of many. This was done for a few reasons. Firstly it allowed a factory made door to be installed which was a bit larger than the one in the classic and it provides a chance to provide a better seal, and allowed the installation of the America model Dometic Fridge which performs much better in hot climates than the previous one. Other options are the frameless windows and electric awning as an option. The layouts remained pretty much the same way.

Of course various features and options have been changing constantly to keep the trailers upgraded and better suited for what the customer wants for the price they have to pay.

All this said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the classic models which carry really neat design, and still allow the owner to go out and make some wonderful memories.
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2nd Gen trailer owners please don't hate me. I love the looks of the Classics. The sculptured sides. Almost like a work of art.

The first time I saw a 2nd Gen in the wild, it was a 21' with a white belly band and no graphics. I didn't know what it was! First thought it was a fiberglass utility trailer, same sort of look. Upon closer inspection, of course it was an Escape trailer.

Perfection IMHO would have been to rework the classic molds to allow a flat, wider door for the Americana refrigerator. But, nothing is impossible to those that don't have to do it
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perfection imho would have been to rework the classic molds to allow a flat, wider door for the americana refrigerator. But, nothing is impossible to those that don't have to do it
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2nd Gen trailer owners please don't hate me. I love the looks of the Classics. The sculptured sides. Almost like a work of art.

The first time I saw a 2nd Gen in the wild, it was a 21' with a white belly band and no graphics. I didn't know what it was! First thought it was a fiberglass utility trailer, same sort of look. Upon closer inspection, of course it was an Escape trailer.

Perfection IMHO would have been to rework the classic molds to allow a flat, wider door for the Americana refrigerator. But, nothing is impossible to those that don't have to do it
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Old 08-31-2019, 11:14 AM   #6
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Sorry, I tried to be tactful... truly. But it's like nearly anything that you've never seen. I only saw the side of the trailer, at that time. The standard decals would have helped me immensely.

How many people have mistaken a Chevy truck instead of a Ford... at a distance? Doesn't make it a bad thing, just a first quick impression.
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Sorry, I tried to be tactful... truly. But it's like nearly anything that you've never seen. I only saw the side of the trailer, at that time. The standard decals would have helped me immensely.

How many people have mistaken a Chevy truck instead of a Ford... at a distance? Doesn't make it a bad thing, just a first quick impression.
As I lack the aesthetic discrimination others have - and am totally into owning a nice, utilitarian, functional, well-built trailer that will last and last - the word "utility" didn't raise a flag to me, as an incipient New Gen owner!
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2nd Gen trailer owners please don't hate me. I love the looks of the Classics. The sculptured sides. Almost like a work of art.

The first time I saw a 2nd Gen in the wild, it was a 21' with a white belly band and no graphics. I didn't know what it was! First thought it was a fiberglass utility trailer, same sort of look. Upon closer inspection, of course it was an Escape trailer.

Perfection IMHO would have been to rework the classic molds to allow a flat, wider door for the Americana refrigerator. But, nothing is impossible to those that don't have to do it
That is exactly our thoughts too ! Kind of like when you see a older car or truck we know what it is . It stood out . Now today’s vehicles all look alike and you have to look for a vehicle emblem to know what it is . When we first were looking at fiberglass trailers ,the the trailer body style is what caught our eye ! We really love our door too ! Pat
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I find it hard to distinguish between the two styles; the new and old Escape 21 have to be parked side by side for me to tell the difference, and even then I have to look closely.

I think going to a flat door, probably an industry standard, was a wise move. I noticed right away after buying my Escape that the vast majority of RVs have a flat door that looked easy to replace if needed. The curved door on the older Escapes like mine looks cool, but the only source for it is ETI if it needs replacing.
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Old 08-31-2019, 12:03 PM   #10
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The classics are lighter if weight matters to you. It did to me which is why I canceled my order for a new 17B and found a 2010 classic. I wrongly assumed the trailer weights in the real world document would apply to the 2nd gen trailers until I found this post from a new 17B owner:New 17B tongue weight...??

I weighed my 2010 17B with full propane tanks and it came in at 2850lbs with empty water tanks.

My Rav4 is only rated for 350lbs tongue weight and 3500lbs towing. The new 17B would have been too heavy by quite a bit! But the classic is light enough.

I see a lot of people quoting the factory brochure data as actual trailer weight. That data is for a bare bones trailer with no added options.

On a 17B
A/C: 100lbs
Dual batteries: 70lbs
Thermal window and insulation package: 120lbs
Storage box: 45lbs

These are common options a lot of people go for and which add up to almost 350lbs more trailer weight.
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The new flat door is logical and practical of course, but... for me the big difference between the new model Escape and the original, classic 19 is like comparing a loaf of freshly made bread and a loaf of Wonder Bread.
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Old 08-31-2019, 12:36 PM   #12
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We really like the classic 21 we have. It’s the 6 th one produced in the fall of 2013. Loaded for the way we camp for a three week trip last spring it weighed 4380 with a 500 lb tongue weight. I could have gone lighter but I prefer bottled beer as opposed to light beer in cans. You and your partner can only take two cases into Canada but thankfully they sell great beer there too.
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Old 08-31-2019, 09:11 PM   #13
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The new flat door is logical and practical of course, but... for me the big difference between the new model Escape and the original, classic 19 is like comparing a loaf of freshly made bread and a loaf of Wonder Bread.
Either one is perfect for loafing...
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Old 08-31-2019, 09:47 PM   #14
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Five Escapes here at Inyan rally in SD, the other four are all gen. 2, 3x21's and a 5.0TA, ours is the "old one" here, a classic made Sept. 2016. We must admit we like the look of the classics better. Quite a few people have commented positively on our screen room which of course is only available if you have a classic. We saw a 19 with light blue graphics not part of our rally today in the Black Hills.
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Quite a few people have commented positively on our screen room which of course is only available if you have a classic.
Adrian: With the return of the manual Carefree Fiesta awning as standard I wonder if the screen room is again an option for new buyers?
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Adrian: With the return of the manual Carefree Fiesta awning as standard I wonder if the screen room is again an option for new buyers?
There was talk of it but one would have to check with Escape.
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I own and enjoy a classic Escape and really do prefer the rounded body shape and airplane style doors on the classic to the new versions. That being said, if we ever move on to a new 5.0 I imagine that I will also love that trailer when we get it.
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Sorry, I tried to be tactful... truly. But it's like nearly anything that you've never seen. I only saw the side of the trailer, at that time. The standard decals would have helped me immensely.

How many people have mistaken a Chevy truck instead of a Ford... at a distance? Doesn't make it a bad thing, just a first quick impression.

Really Donna "Utility" then "tried to be tactful" then you take on the thundering hordes on each side of the Chevy vs. Ford debate. You reeeeeeeeaaaally need to go camping, right away!! Take 10Forward to the Delta Quadrant and relax.
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Really Donna "Utility" then "tried to be tactful" then you take on the thundering hordes on each side of the Chevy vs. Ford debate. You reeeeeeeeaaaally need to go camping, right away!! Take 10Forward to the Delta Quadrant and relax.
Yeah, I REALLY do need to go camping. But it wouldn't change my first impression. Can't go back in time. It really doesn't matter one whit though and you can blame it on my bad eyesight. I once saw an all-molded-towable waaaaay ahead of me on the freeway. When I finally caught up to it, saw it was really a horse trailer.
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