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Old 10-11-2016, 10:28 PM   #51
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I'm chiming into the discussion late. I have a 17 and don't have an a/c unit nor can i get one installed. I would prefer having it. But I"m one of those people who hate the real hot days where you're sticky and can't sleep. I have a/c in the workplace and at home as well.

Another reason I would have it installed is due to my dogs. I worry about them when I'm out and about and in the hot weather. I may be able to tolerate it a bit more without it, but I don't want to put my dogs lives in jeopardy because it's too hot. Granted Escapes are a lot cooler than a vehicle. Most times I would not have to turn the a/c on being from BC and camping in PNW.

Finally I would also have it installed so that my options aren't limited. I didn't go to the Escape Rally because I knew it was going to be incredibly hot this last year. It was a hot year for us in the Fraser Valley. Lots of times I didn't go camping due to the weather.

And not camping, is not good!
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:52 PM   #52
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I'm chiming into the discussion late. I have a 17 and don't have an a/c unit nor can i get one installed. I would prefer having it. But I"m one of those people who hate the real hot days where you're sticky and can't sleep. I have a/c in the workplace and at home as well.

Another reason I would have it installed is due to my dogs. I worry about them when I'm out and about and in the hot weather. I may be able to tolerate it a bit more without it, but I don't want to put my dogs lives in jeopardy because it's too hot. Granted Escapes are a lot cooler than a vehicle. Most times I would not have to turn the a/c on being from BC and camping in PNW.

Finally I would also have it installed so that my options aren't limited. I didn't go to the Escape Rally because I knew it was going to be incredibly hot this last year. It was a hot year for us in the Fraser Valley. Lots of times I didn't go camping due to the weather.

And not camping, is not good!
The rally weather was cool to us, but I guess it's all about what you're used to. We didn't have to use the AC at all while at Osoyoos, and we slept fine.

As for not being able to have AC installed, why not?

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Old 10-11-2016, 11:00 PM   #53
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If you have access to ice, and you only need one occasionally, maybe your solution is a "Redneck air conditioner".
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:03 PM   #54
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I have a 2008 and the roof was not reinforced and wired for A/C. That was an option that I declined. Some time later, all Escapes were "A/C ready".
I'm sure you could add A/C, but it would be cost prohibitive.
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:09 PM   #55
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I'm sure you could add A/C, but it would be cost prohibitive.
Or, he could add a window mount unit as I have for those very rare times when I want A/C and power to run it is available. 88 bucks

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Old 10-11-2016, 11:21 PM   #56
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Another benefit to the smaller window unit is that you can power it with a smaller generator without worrying about ruining your A/C compressor. This assumes you aren't camping in the South during summer.
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Or, he could add a window mount unit as I have for those very rare times when I want A/C and power to run it is available. 88 bucks

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Yep, I'd go with the window unit if the roof can't support AC. Way cheaper, very effective cooling, and probably much quieter. Of course there's the setup whenever you want to use it, and you have to haul it around taking up cargo space, but those things are minor.

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On the early 17's the AC was a window unit put in over the fridge. I don't know what year they started roof mount but he over fridge could be addded fairly easily to the 17 without the reinforced roof.
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:29 PM   #59
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I'll probably ask sometime but if it is possible to not have the cut out I would go for that. Maybe then have Escape install dual solar panels where the A/C would have been.
Dual solar is indeed possible. Escape is installing dual solar panels AND a passive vent on my 17b! They said there was only 1/4" of space left over though, so things like MaxxFans, roof mounted Swamp Coolers, Air conditioners, etc are not possible with that configuration. I haven't asked them, but a Fantastic Vent might work.

I toyed with the idea of eliminating the 14" hole, but this picture convinced me that I wanted it. Lots of natural light at the ceiling (the exterior window light comes in lower), and the passive vent opens up much bigger than any fan since it's square, opens higher and doesn't have fan blades in the way. Heat rises, so the passive vent should help allow hot air to escape better than the windows when for whatever reason I don't want to use the fan.
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Dual solar is indeed possible. Escape is installing dual solar panels AND a passive vent on my 17b! They said there was only 1/4" of space left over though, so things like MaxxFans, roof mounted Swamp Coolers, Air conditioners, etc are not possible with that configuration. I haven't asked them, but a Fantastic Vent might work.

I toyed with the idea of eliminating the 14" hole, but this picture convinced me that I wanted it. Lots of natural light at the ceiling (the exterior window light comes in lower), and the passive vent opens up much bigger than any fan since it's square, opens higher and doesn't have fan blades in the way. Heat rises, so the passive vent should help allow hot air to escape better than the windows when for whatever reason I don't want to use the fan.
If you stick with 100 watt panels, you can fit 2 panels, the AC & Maxxfan on a 17B. The rear panel is the Escape installed 95 Watt GoPower panel & the front a 100 Watt Renogy Poly panel (the closest voltage match to the GoPower panel).
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