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Old 01-14-2017, 09:00 PM   #1
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Replacing the shower drain

I want to replace the shower drain in my 2017 21'. Installing a hepvo valve was high on my priority list and I want a drain with a strainer screen - no twist shutoff.

Has anyone removed the drain? Looking at the bottom of the trailer, it seems that all the plumbing is glued. Does the drain screw out from the top or is this going to be major surgery?
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Old 01-15-2017, 03:24 AM   #2
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Major surgery and the strainer screws down to prevent back flow.
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That's what my fear is - we haven't even got home with the trailer from Chilliwack and my wife says stooping down to open/close the drain has got to go. We got used to the Casita with the hepvo valve where you don't have to anything - just shower and everything takes care of itself.

Installing the hepvo is easy. The drain line into the grey tank gets cut, a couple of abs fittings, and the hepvo goes right in. The drain is the catch. She wants a drain that has the flat stainless drain screen - not a plastic basket strainer.

I guess a call to Escape is in order. I was hoping someone had replaced the drain before. I did the search thing and found one thread where the threaded piece in the center of the drain had broken but nothing was said of how it got fixed.
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Old 01-15-2017, 06:01 AM   #4
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I have heard talk of chaning out the shower drain with a Hepvo, but not sure if anyone here has done it. I say go for it and take pictures.

What is the issue with opening and closing the drain cap? Do you have a mat on the floor, I could see that being a bother.
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:44 AM   #5
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If you have the foam option then it is very expensive. The drain does screw in, if stooping is the issue, remove the plug entirely and install a wooden floor like others, it will keep your feet dry. Also regularly emptying the grey will also eliminate the need for the plug. Mine only overflowed once, going down a steep hill. The drain plug is trivial to other issues that can and do arise and easily fixable.
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:19 AM   #6
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...The drain is the catch. She wants a drain that has the flat stainless drain screen - not a plastic basket strainer..
Is there a commercially available product available, or are you going to need to make this too? I've never seen one this small (Baskets yes, flat strainers no). I'm curious.
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Here is a variety pack at Amazon, https://www.amazon.com/Maxware-Stain...ST7RWVXF879BHK
or, just leave it empty, I doubt it can hurt your grey tank if some debris enters it.
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Here is a variety pack at Amazon, https://www.amazon.com/Maxware-Stain...ST7RWVXF879BHK
or, just leave it empty, I doubt it can hurt your grey tank if some debris enters it.
I forgot about those. When Tom said "flat" this is what I thought he was looking for and the smallest I've seen is for a 3" drain.
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Dollar Store also sells them, for a $1.....
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Dollar Store also sells them, for a $1.....
But they're not stainless steel. Dollar stores call them "metal mesh."
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What? You don't get high quality stainless steel at the Dollar Store for a dollar? The shame of it all. I'm writing my Congressman and telling my Senator Joni Ernst when I see her at the hog castrating derby this spring.
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... at the hog castrating derby this spring.
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On my older 19 I had issues with the drain. The issue was on occasion there would be an odor escaping from the gray tank. It was always solved by being sure that the shower drain plug was screwed in entirely.
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What? You don't get high quality stainless steel at the Dollar Store for a dollar? The shame of it all. I'm writing my Congressman and telling my Senator Joni Ernst when I see her at the hog castrating derby this spring.
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Have you been practicing for you entry again this year Dave?
Both of you need to zip your lips. If you don't, we are likely to have PITA picketing this forum and declaring us all evil! LOL
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Both of you need to zip your lips. If you don't, we are likely to have PITA picketing this forum and declaring us all evil! LOL
ooops I didn't know that pocket bread organization was so prevalent!
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Poolitical correctness

I would like to apologize for my comments regarding the castration of pigs. I am not qualified to use this language on an Internet forum. Experience with this barbaric practice was of course a claim of our junior United States senator here in Iowa and the opinion of many as to the positive turning point in her campaign. And I realize that I may be a PITA at times and that it mainly comes from my affection for eating red meat and wearing my PETA tee shirt. But dang, the shirt is spot on. People Eating Tasty Animals. Including the castration by-product.
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With all the good features and upgrades Reace has done on the Escapes, and his flexibility with changes and mods it's almost shocking that he hasn't upgraded to Installing Hepvos as Casita has done, and he won't even install them on request. Quite surprising and disappointing.

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So I haven't picked up my Escape yet due to weather and this is news to me. Does this mean there is a manual valve to open for the shower drain to work? Or that there is no valve at all and the water just slops up into the shower if we drive without draining? (like the older Casitas?)
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Once you have became used to the ease of a hepvo (nothing to open/close, no odors, no surprise flooding of the shower pan by using the kitchen sink when the grey is close to full, no trap that cannot be cleaned because they glued it on), it's hard to do without it.

I'll try to make a tutorial on my hepvo install - this will be my second one to install. Casita owners were installing them so often that Casita decided to make them standard a few years ago. Maybe we can start something with Escape.
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With all the good features and upgrades Reace has done on the Escapes, and his flexibility with changes and mods it's almost shocking that he hasn't upgraded to Installing Hepvos as Casita has done, and he won't even install them on request. Quite surprising and disappointing.

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Given the upgrades that Reace has adopted, he must have a good reason for not installing Hepvo.
All I can say is that I've used my 2008 17B for eight years without having an issue with the shower drain or with odor. It's on my drive-away list, but I've probably only closed the shower drain twice in all that time, without issue. I've also never come close to filling the grey tank. You can add Odorlos to the grey tank, just as you can to the black.
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