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Old 08-19-2018, 05:30 PM   #1
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Retro Fit Pole

2015 Classic 19.
Reace sent me a pole assy under warranty like the 2G 19's now have to solidify the roof over the kitchen cabinets at the door entrance.
The Classic 19 has to have a bit of customization to allow the pole to be installed unlike the 2G models. So I've been building this out over steps.
First step was to create an under-cabinet support out of 2X1 Red Oak which was also needed for the Kamenstein paper towel holder.
Then cut the trim to fit in the top pole mount.
Cut a 1/2" piece of dowel to fit in the bottom pole mount so over time the pole wouldn't chew up my formica in case the pole was ever removed.
Cut the pole and added 1/16" over the measurement to allow a bit of lift and pressure on the cabinets as the pole was set.
Measurement turned out perfectly as I had to pop the pole into position with some light tapping.
Leveled it all up and sank the screws in the mount. Still need just a touch of caulk at the top trim area and we're good to go.
You could flex the upper cabinets prior to the installation as was a good bit of movement. Solid now.
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Old 08-19-2018, 05:42 PM   #2
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2015 Classic 19.
Reace sent me a pole assy under warranty like the 2G 19's now have to solidify the roof over the kitchen cabinets at the door entrance.
The Classic 19 has to have a bit of customization to allow the pole to be installed unlike the 2G models. So I've been building this out over steps.
First step was to create an under-cabinet support out of 2X1 Red Oak which was also needed for the Kamenstein paper towel holder.
Then cut the trim to fit in the top pole mount.
Cut a 1/2" piece of dowel to fit in the bottom pole mount so over time the pole wouldn't chew up my formica in case the pole was ever removed.
Cut the pole and added 1/16" over the measurement to allow a bit of lift and pressure on the cabinets as the pole was set.
Measurement turned out perfectly as I had to pop the pole into position with some light tapping.
Leveled it all up and sank the screws in the mount. Still need just a touch of caulk at the top trim area and we're good to go.
You could flex the upper cabinets prior to the installation as was a good bit of movement. Solid now.
Hi Greg very nice work ! Pat
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Old 08-19-2018, 05:44 PM   #3
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Thanks, Pat. You've been there on this retro-fit as well.
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Old 08-19-2018, 05:44 PM   #4
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2015 Classic 19.
Reace sent me a pole assy under warranty like the 2G 19's now have to solidify the roof over the kitchen cabinets at the door entrance.
The Classic 19 has to have a bit of customization to allow the pole to be installed unlike the 2G models. So I've been building this out over steps.
First step was to create an under-cabinet support out of 2X1 Red Oak which was also needed for the Kamenstein paper towel holder.
Then cut the trim to fit in the top pole mount.
Cut a 1/2" piece of dowel to fit in the bottom pole mount so over time the pole wouldn't chew up my formica in case the pole was ever removed.
Cut the pole and added 1/16" over the measurement to allow a bit of lift and pressure on the cabinets as the pole was set.
Measurement turned out perfectly as I had to pop the pole into position with some light tapping.
Leveled it all up and sank the screws in the mount. Still need just a touch of caulk at the top trim area and we're good to go.
You could flex the upper cabinets prior to the installation as was a good bit of movement. Solid now.
Excellent execution! I've been thinking about adding the pole to our 2013 classic 19' but hadn't gotten as far as figuring out a solution to the alignment problem. Well Done!

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Old 08-19-2018, 05:48 PM   #5
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Thank you, Arnie. I'd highly recommend this, it's a worthwhile mod to do. If you decide to do it, I'd be would be more than willing to answer any questions you would have.
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I'm confused, I thought my 2014 E21 came with factory pole, was it only in the 21's before the 2G models that had it in the 19's?
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Thanks, Pat. You've been there on this retro-fit as well.
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The 1G 21's had the pole, Jim but not the 1G 19's
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I'm confused, I thought my 2014 E21 came with factory pole, was it only in the 21's before the 2G models that had it in the 19's?
I believe so Jim . I added it to our 19 because I didn't care for the movement at that cabinet if I grabbed it . Too long unsupported span in my opinion. Pat
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Why is the pole a good idea on this particular cabinet? Is it because of the proximity of the entry door?
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Greg, when you say Reace sent you a pole assembly "under warranty", does that mean he will send it to other classic 19 owners? I've never noticed any issues with that upper cabinet, but perhaps some reinforcement would be prudent.
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Greg,
very nice work. Would you share the cost of the pole plus shipping. Thanks.

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No Robert, I doubt he would unless it became a recall issue and it's not widespread that I've heard of. All the trailers that are affected are out of warranty now anyway. I actually had gel coat stress spider cracking directly over this point on the roof within 9 months of pickup.
When I saw he added the pole to the 2G 19 it was an Ah Ha moment that they were advised somewhere to add in that support. Several of the members with Engineering and stress backgrounds had pm'd me that they felt it was too long an unsupported run on that cabinet span. There is a good bit of movement you can see when you grab the cabinet on that end and flex it.
I asked for the pole and a quart of matching gel coat for the repair and Reace was gracious enough to agree. I know, Pat just asked if they sell the pole assy and he bought his to do the reinforcement.
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very nice work. Would you share the cost of the pole plus shipping. Thanks.

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Thank you, Tonny.
Mine was supplied under warranty claim, but Pat might chime in here with the cost ETI charges for the pole as I remember he bought one from ETI
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Probably a good idea to purchase one and install similarly to the way the op posted. It should prevent future stress cracks as well as keeping those present from growing. In addition I find it handy for exit and entrance the trailer, well worth a little $$.
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Thanks Tonny and Greg, but I'm still a little dense. What warranty claim? Was there damage or cracking due to some sag?
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Thanks Tonny and Greg, but I'm still a little dense. What warranty claim? Was there damage or cracking due to some sag?
Yes, I had stress cracks appear in the gel-coat right above the cabinets on the roof very soon after pickup, directly above where the pole is now. While Reace wouldn't say one way or another, he agreed to repair in Chilliwack or he did agree to provide the pole and some ETI gel coat which is all I was asking for. I was happy with the resolution and love the new pole...
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Why is the pole a good idea on this particular cabinet? Is it because of the proximity of the entry door?
Too long unsupported span unlike the other side of trailer , bath is there and the other side cabinets all connect . Pat
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Too long unsupported span unlike the other side of trailer , bath is there and the other side cabinets all connect . Pat
Cost after the exchange was about 60 American . Pat
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Yes, I had stress cracks appear in the gel-coat right above the cabinets on the roof very soon after pickup, directly above where the pole is now. While Reace wouldn't say one way or another, he agreed to repair in Chilliwack or he did agree to provide the pole and some ETI gel coat which is all I was asking for. I was happy with the resolution and love the new pole...
Ah! That explains it. Thanks for the info Greg.

Ours still looks new with no cracks anywhere. But, might not be a bad idea to add the pole anyway.
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