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Old 04-24-2017, 11:28 AM   #11
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I believe that is "tdf" Texas tag line
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Old 04-24-2017, 01:12 PM   #12
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Pulling the window out should be a last resort.
I stand corrected. Pulling the window would ultimately be the most comprehensive way of attacking the problem. We went with the Proflex around the perimeter and it stopped the leak so we stopped there. But to the point of several experienced forum members the Proflex should be the first line of defense with a good sealing surface of butyl underneath.
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Old 04-24-2017, 01:47 PM   #13
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The ultimate and best way to ensure a proper seal is to pull the window, clean both surfaces, and then reinstall using a quality butyl tape. After cleaning up what butyl squeezes out, a bead of clear ProFles on the top is a good idea too.

For a temporary fix, you could just use a bit of ProFlex.
Thanks Jim! I will definitely pull the window and repair properly but I may need to resort to a temporary fix to seal up until we have some nicer weather... maybe just some kitchen and bath silicone that is already open.

I assume that most local RV or marine stores would carry the appropriate quality butyl tape and ProFlex sealant. Would you place the butyl tape on the window frame or around the window opening before pressing it into place? Any suggestions on cleaners for prepping the surface?

I also noticed that the gasket around the exterior of the window had some gaps. Any concerns?
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Old 04-24-2017, 01:57 PM   #14
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I stand corrected. Pulling the window would ultimately be the most comprehensive way of attacking the problem. We went with the Proflex around the perimeter and it stopped the leak so we stopped there. But to the point of several experienced forum members the Proflex should be the first line of defense with a good sealing surface of butyl underneath.


Dave I only tossed my 2 cents worth in because I worked as a glazier and did work at a fairly large RV dealership (one of our customers). So it's kind of second nature to me. Didn't mean to offend anyone.


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Dave I only tossed my 2 cents worth in because I worked as a glazier and did work at a fairly large RV dealership (one of our customers). So it's kind of second nature to me. Didn't mean to offend anyone.

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No offense taken. I'm always learning and appreciate someone with your experience weighing in. Again our leak stopped with the Proflex application, but you've got me thinking we really need to pull the front window out to do it right. Just hard to justify when it isn't leaking now, so maybe this will be a wait and see approach.
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Thanks Jim! I will definitely pull the window and repair properly but I may need to resort to a temporary fix to seal up until we have some nicer weather... maybe just some kitchen and bath silicone that is already open.

Think twice and ask Donna a why that's not a good idea How about some tape?
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With the age of your trailer I would consider doing all of your windows.
I was concerned about that last Fall so I did a pretty thorough inspection of the sealant on the windows when I was cleaning all the mildew off the roof and power buffing the whole top side above the belly band.

I did notice that the side windows had a bit of butyl sealant that was oozing out around the frames but no caulking. The rear window has only the caulking visible.

Once I have done the rear window I may tackle a bathroom window install like you did!
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Thanks Jim! I will definitely pull the window and repair properly but I may need to resort to a temporary fix to seal up until we have some nicer weather... maybe just some kitchen and bath silicone that is already open.

I assume that most local RV or marine stores would carry the appropriate quality butyl tape and ProFlex sealant. Would you place the butyl tape on the window frame or around the window opening before pressing it into place? Any suggestions on cleaners for prepping the surface?

I also noticed that the gasket around the exterior of the window had some gaps. Any concerns?
Like Ross said, do avoid the silicone caulk and use ProFlex.

RV shops will definitely carry butyl tape. Acetone is fine to use on gelcoat and is great at getting the old butyl off. I always put the butyl tape on the window itself, as you can place it accurately to near the edge. Placed on the trailer shell, it would be tougher to get it in the right spot.

Without looking close at the window, it is tough to see the effect of the shrunken rubber seal. I am inclined to think a wee bit of the ProSeal in the gap will do the trick fine.
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Think twice and ask Donna a why that's not a good idea How about some tape?
My attempt at humour failed... I was just going to tape it.

Out of curiosity I looked up the issues with using silicone on the Fibreglass RV forum. One thread had some good points Why not Silicone? - Fiberglass RV
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I was concerned about that last Fall so I did a pretty thorough inspection of the sealant on the windows when I was cleaning all the mildew off the roof and power buffing the whole top side above the belly band.

I did notice that the side windows had a bit of butyl sealant that was oozing out around the frames but no caulking. The rear window has only the caulking visible.
It is also a good idea with a trailer that age to check all the seals around roof penetrations. If attention is needed a bit of cleaning and an application of Dicor Lap Sealant would seal things up tight.

I am not sure what Escape did with those windows, but the ones I have installed, I only caulked along the top, and maybe a bit down the side.
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