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Old 03-09-2016, 12:42 PM   #31
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This is a temporary fix: Skip was able to get part of the rivet out and ran a sheet metal screw through the hole and the rest of the rivet (wch he was unable to remove since we don't have our drill).

Sorry, we are driving through southern New Mexico and cell service is spotty...
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:04 PM   #32
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Actually mine has 2 rivets on each side, total of 4 attachment points to fiberglass.
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:05 PM   #33
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We've driven 60 or so miles this morning and it is better. For now. FWIW.
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:13 PM   #34
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Actually mine has 2 rivets on each side, total of 4 attachment points to fiberglass.
As does ours, Jim. The broken rivet holds the brace that spans the center of the box, from front to back. The brace is held by a single rivet on each end, connecting it to the metal pieces that are joined to the fiberglass, as you described. Here's another pic of the sheet metal screw, where you can see the join to the fiberglass.
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:00 PM   #35
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Robert, at Mat Madness, did y'all verify that the box was not loose? That's the next thing we'll check, to be sure the bolts at the bottom are snug.
Yes, the bolts were tight. But, with little effort, you could rock the whole box back and forth. The box on the 21 is larger, but the structure isn't any thicker. That to me would result in a more flexible box, and vibration would be greater. Obviously with the support bracket broken, you had even less rigidity. I think the larger the box is, they need to make it slightly thicker in order to keep the rigidity and make for a more stable mount. Either that, or they should glass in a beefier support structure. The box on our 19 feels much more solid than on the 21 I mentioned, and you can't rock it back and forth.
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:17 PM   #36
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The box on the 21 is larger, but the structure isn't any thicker. That to me would result in a more flexible box, and vibration would be greater. Obviously with the support bracket broken, you had even less rigidity. I think the larger the box is, they need to make it slightly thicker in order to keep the rigidity and make for a more stable mount. Either that, or they should glass in a beefier support structure.
I would vote for the glassed-in reinforcement, but that could be a lot of hand labour, either driving the box price up or making it less profitable. Although this would be best done while the box is being made, I suppose an owner could do it later. It could even be an opportunity to compartmentalize the space with dividing walls.
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:42 PM   #37
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As does ours, Jim. The broken rivet holds the brace that spans the center of the box, from front to back. The brace is held by a single rivet on each end, connecting it to the metal pieces that are joined to the fiberglass, as you described. Here's another pic of the sheet metal screw, where you can see the join to the fiberglass.
do they put metal flat washers on ALL rivets that protrude the fiberglass? Looks like some in that pic posted do not have anything but the fiberglass under the rivet compression.
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One rivet installed like that isn't very strong. Two would have been better.

Also, I see rivets have been installed through the f.g. without a backing washer. Normally pop rivets that go through two layers of metal don't require anything on the end that "mushrooms". When using soft material, normally a washer is installed so that the force of the rivet is spread over a wider area. Personally I regard the resin as a semi-soft material and would have used a backing washer.

Don't know the function of those rivets but if they are load bearing I'd do that mod as well as add at least one more rivet to the area where the rivet failed.

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agree...IMHO shoddy construction technique/design especially for the cost of this option. Does anybody know if Escape is making the storage box or is it sub-contracted?
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:57 PM   #39
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I saw a storage box mold when we toured the factory in Sept. 2014. Loren
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Escape makes the storage box. They also do what they can to keep it light, and not add too much tongue weight.
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