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11-23-2021, 08:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2023 E19
Posts: 304
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Tacoma with WDH and Air Bags?
I recently placed a deposit on an E19. Even though delivery is well over a year away, I am in the process of planning how to best equip my tow vehicle for the task. It’s a 2014 2nd Generation Toyota Tacoma access cab equipped with a manual transmission, V6, 4wd, TRD off-road suspension, and factory tow package. It is also fitted with a Raider fiberglass canopy (150ish lbs). A Tekonsha trailer brake controller will be installed in the near future.
This is the first time that this truck will be used to tow anything of significant weight.
I know that the E19 will be within the Tacoma’s towing, payload, and max GVW/axle weight capabilities. However, I’m also very aware that it won’t take much additional cargo to approach the truck’s payload limits…..especially if I get close to max trailer weight. I plan to use the Fastway E2 WDH offered by Escape to help manage the load and control sway. However, I am debating with myself if I should also invest in rear airbags to assist the stock 4-leaf springs. The intent would be not to rely on the airbags to correct excessive rear sag (hopefully the WDH takes care of that)....but rather help manage the remaining weight on the rear to the best possible extent.
I understand that the Tacoma is a somewhat common TV for the E19. I’m curious about the experiences of other Escape owners with a similar set-up……..
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11-23-2021, 11:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Juneau, Alaska
Trailer: 2016 Escape 19
Posts: 555
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We have a 2017 Quad cab Tacoma to tow our 2016 E-19 and use a pro series WDH sold by Escape. I installed a set of Sumo springs (blue) instead of airbags. They don’t effect the unloaded ride and can’t develop a leak. I am very happy with this setup. I think some of the early Tacoma’s had weak springs but I’m not sure when that was fixed.
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11-24-2021, 04:58 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,120
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We had a 2008 Tacoma SR5 DC 4X4 (SR5, no tow package), to tow our 2007 Escape 17B. I used to tow it locally only hitch on ball. If I was fully loaded going at least an hour, I would hook up the WDH bars. I doubt you'll need air bags. For the 4Runner, you would need airbags, not the 2nd gen Tacoma.
I wish I never sold that truck.
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11-24-2021, 06:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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We towed our E19 with a FJ Cruiser, sorry I got rid of the FJ.......
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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11-24-2021, 08:58 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado
Trailer: 2021 Escape 19
Posts: 26
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Many folks tow with a Tacoma, but I would recommend getting it weighed as you currently have it configured to assess how much GVWR you have left. On my 2016 with a shell, I found i had about 40 lbs to spare with just myself and my wife inside - and we're not that heavy. The WDH would have pushed us over the limit, not to mention supplies. Sumo springs worked well on my Tacoma, but I decided to move up to an F-150.
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11-24-2021, 09:16 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Valencia, Pennsylvania
Trailer: 2022 E19 Escape
Posts: 28
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I also use the Sumo springs.
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11-24-2021, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
Trailer: 2016 Escape 19
Posts: 213
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If the tow package doesn't include a transmission cooler I would recommend one. Also recommend ScanGauge to monitor tranny temp. Neither are very expensive, especially if you can install the tranny cooler yourself, and really give you peace of mind.
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11-24-2021, 10:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2023 E19
Posts: 304
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Thanks to all for the feedback....
I will take a closer look at Sumo springs as an alternative to air bags. The stock rear leaf springs are the "improved" version and have held up well over the last 8 years.
I've owned my Tacoma since new and it is in excellent condition for its age. Other than the canopy, the truck is bone stock. It has been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. As long as I keep up with routine maintenance/repairs, I hope to get few more years of service out of it.
I am very aware of the payload restrictions. It helps that I am a solo traveler, but after factoring in the weight of the canopy, hitch, and myself....I'll only have about 750lbs of payload capacity remaining to handle the tongue weight and any other on-board cargo. It's doable, but I need to remain mindful of the truck's limits. I think it will be adequate for the relatively short distances that I'll be towing in the near-future. For the first few years, the trailer will remain at a fixed location for the most part and primarily serve as a home-away-from-home while working out of town during the summer season.
I plan on keeping the Escape for the long term, and intend to travel more extensively as I approach retirement. The Tacoma will be replaced prior to that point, I'm almost certain that I'll be upgrading to a 1/2 ton. I'll sure miss the manual transmission....
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11-24-2021, 12:01 PM
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#9
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Chilliwack, British Columbia
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21 (One Life...Live It)
Posts: 146
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I tow an Escape 21 with a 2014 Tacoma with sumo springs. I have the same truck and canopy as you except it is auto, Sumo springs work well but the make the ride when unloaded a bit rough. In the manual with the WD hitch it says not to use air bags. With the 19 you should have no problem but I would recommend towing mirrors. I had clip on’s on the stock mirrors for the first year but they vibrated a bit.
You can find ACANII Towing mirrors for 2005-2015 Tacoma on Amazon will worth the investment and easy to install. Scan gauge is good but with the manual trans you could skip it unless you want to see your fuel usage on a steep incline
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11-24-2021, 03:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingfish
If the tow package doesn't include a transmission cooler I would recommend one. Also recommend ScanGauge to monitor tranny temp. Neither are very expensive, especially if you can install the tranny cooler yourself, and really give you peace of mind.
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For a manual transmission? I assume that you're thinking of an automatic transmission.
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11-24-2021, 06:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2023 E19
Posts: 304
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fun&Sun
You can find ACANII Towing mirrors for 2005-2015 Tacoma on Amazon will worth the investment and easy to install.
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Towing mirrors are also on my list of additions. I noticed the model you reference are heated. The unheated stock mirrors have long been a pet peeve! With another winter approaching, I might be adding these sooner than later.
Assuming you have now have the ACANII mirrors installed, did you wire up the heated mirror functionality? If so, how difficult was the process?
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11-24-2021, 07:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Chilliwack, British Columbia
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21 (One Life...Live It)
Posts: 146
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They had different selections when I got mine, I just got the power mirrors. I would imagine you would need wiring and a switch if you added the heated mirrors. Might be something to check out what you would need to do for the upgrade. Just as a warning the mirrors have a different glass than the stock, it’s just a flat glass so you don’t get the magnification that the stock Toyota mirrors have.
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11-24-2021, 11:44 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Seattle, Washington
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 73
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We have a 2016 Taco, towed with the just Sumo’s for a couple seasons then installed a add a leaf & Bilstien 5100’s in the rear. The add a leaf added 1 1/2” lift in the rear, nearly the same as the sag when hitched.
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11-25-2021, 01:07 PM
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#14
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Arcata, California
Trailer: E23Q; previously: 2017 E21
Posts: 182
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We’ve been towing our E21 2017 with a 2016 6 cylinder Tacoma since we got the trailer in March 2017. I did install the Sumo springs, and think they were worth it. Clearly, the Tacoma works to get up a mountain. Still, we’ve crossed the Sierra’s many times, the Rockies, and the Cascades with no problems. Something more hefty would be easier no doubt. But if you have a Taco, you will be pleased with it’s performance and it will handle your E19 just fine.
Best wishes, and know it’s worth the wait!
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2024 E23Q, March, 2024
2022 Ford F150 Hybrid
Arcata, CA
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11-26-2021, 08:47 AM
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#15
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Kent, Ohio
Trailer: 2017 21c Sold, 2023 Bigfoot 25RQ
Posts: 1,393
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You might consider the Active Suspension system which seems to have a better ride unlosddd and is easy to install
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12-01-2021, 12:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Milam, Texas
Trailer: 2016 ESCAPE 21
Posts: 158
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I have used air bags for years on Tacomas and also have a set on my f-150. Look at Air Lift and Firestone, they both good air lift bags. Keep your receipt as both come with a lifetime warranty against bag leakage
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12-02-2021, 09:51 AM
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#17
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
Trailer: 2016 Escape 19
Posts: 213
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
For a manual transmission? I assume that you're thinking of an automatic transmission.
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Yes. Automatic.
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12-02-2021, 11:01 PM
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#18
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: '09 Escape 17B
Posts: 24
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I used an add-a-leaf (probably the same as the Sumo) and air bags. I added a Magnuson supercharger for the mountains and passing.
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12-04-2021, 05:47 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 5,155
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I had a 2008 4.0 V6 Tacoma TRD off road, 4x4 with a 6-speed manual. The Firestone airbag kit was absolutely the best thing I ever did that truck, and the second best thing was putting BFGoodrich all-terrain ko2 load range e tires on it. When the airbags pumped up, that truck handled heavy loads just great, and drop the airbags to 5 PSI each, and it rode like stock when it was empty. I also upgraded the shocks to some better bilsteins, and perhaps I should have gotten rancho 9,000 if they're available, that's what I put on my F-250 and they Rock you can adjust the damping.
I towed an Escape 21 from Texas back to California by way of Reno, the biggest problem was the gas mileage, on the southern western interstates I was getting 9.6 miles per gallon on tank after tank, and that meant I was looking for gas at 150 miles, on a long drive that's painful.. we ended up getting a bigger truck, because sometimes we carry a lot of gear, carpets one or two pop-up binding awnings, multiple chairs, tables, astronomy gear, huge coolers full of drinks, etc etc etc. If we were light travelers we'd probably still have the Tacoma, although another issue was that my wife can't drive a stick anymore
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