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Old 06-27-2023, 06:32 PM   #121
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If you haven't seen the 23 in person it's worth having a look at even if it isn't in your future. Very different feeling than the published plans might indicate. It's parked near the parking lot.

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Well, I'd like to see it, too, but it's 3k miles away. Maybe they could take it on a North-American tour?

Does it really feel more spacious than a 21 (we have a 21C)?
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Old 06-27-2023, 10:07 PM   #122
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I loved my 19 and I love my 21. They've both taken me far and wide and done the job very well.

The 23 is at another level. I freely admit that the initial plans looked like a confined disaster to me. I was really surprised by my first look in it. Just so much more spacious. Much more of a different feeling of space between a 19 and a 21.

Then there's the scoot vrs. climb over discussion. I've never been a big fan of either. I'm at an age where I looked at the twin beds and wished I could have them in a 21. Unlike the island Queen layout the twins still retain all the overhead storage as well as having easy access.

We cook the majority of our food inside the trailer. The kitchen counter is larger than some condos.

Dry bath was never an attraction for me. 40 plus years of wet baths haven't been a problem.

I spent some time in it yesterday looking at a couple of specific details. Still had the same wow appeal opening the door.

So, yes, feels much more spacious and it is. Too bad the 21C is probably my last trailer.

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Old 06-28-2023, 08:44 AM   #123
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Great to read your take on 23’! We are still getting used to driving 5.0 TA but it behaves very nicely on the road. Not sure if we will ever be ready for a pull behind.

As for Karl’s departure, senior managers leave/are asked to leave all the time. It rarely has an impact on the day-to-day operations, at least in the short-to-medium term. So, connecting Karl’s departure with delays in deliveries is simply confusing correlation with causation.
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Old 06-28-2023, 08:51 AM   #124
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The Long Goodbye.
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:34 AM   #125
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Yesss... Long goodbyes for good folks.


Delayed deliveries and slow production is nothing new here. It's the nature of the beast...... It's a small business pumping out a great product for a high demand volume...... This is not a GM / FORD / DODGE / TESLA plant... It's ETI doing the best they can as a small business with fantastic people.....



Cheers.... and Happy Trails......
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Old 06-28-2023, 08:46 PM   #126
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Thanks for asking, I was thinking that someone might ask that question.

The answer is a definite no. I'm just a two time Escape owner who looks at the big picture. Lot's of prior f.g. fabrication experience, a 40 plus year interest in f.g. trailers and an interest in problem solving.

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Thank you for your understanding of the questions, and for replying.
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:03 PM   #127
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Old 06-28-2023, 10:02 PM   #128
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Notice the emphasis on preparing the company for resale
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Old 06-28-2023, 10:17 PM   #129
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I'm so glad I have my forever Escape.
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Old 06-28-2023, 11:55 PM   #130
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I'm so glad I have my forever Escape.
Same here, but my sentiment has nothing to do with the inevitable continuing evolution of the company since I made the purchase

Wishing the best for Karl and all the folks at ETI (some say it can't be bought but he and they delivered happiness to me).
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Old 06-29-2023, 01:41 AM   #131
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They are asking for a minimum of a Bachelor's degree in business administration, while "RV industry interest and knowledge would be considered an asset." The priorities are pretty clear. I don’t think Reace would meet their requirements.

I don't envy the future owner who will be trying to make a go of it while paying off the cost of the purchase.
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Old 06-29-2023, 05:36 AM   #132
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Several years ago I was hired on a one year gig to do a similar job for a small company that was part of a large conglomerate. Although my role was not publicized as such. I was hired as the VP of Sales & Marketing. Not even the President of the division new my role. He never understood why the CEO hired me and said he was only told I had free rein and no budget constraints.

I didn't do anything magical. I just spruced up the places that looked like they would stand out to a new owner. Revised production methods, purchased some new tools, expanded the sales team, bought some advertising, cost savings program, etc. Think of it as sweeping out an old barn to host a wedding. It's still an old barn but.......

At the end of my one year gig we sold the company. Today it is still in the hands of the group we sold it to and doing good.
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Old 06-29-2023, 06:35 AM   #133
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They are asking for a minimum of a Bachelor's degree in business administration, while "RV industry interest and knowledge would be considered an asset." The priorities are pretty clear. I don’t think Reace would meet their requirements.

I don't envy the future owner who will be trying to make a go of it while paying off the cost of the purchase.
Hi: Civilguy... IMHO, KV wants their new guy to have everything and a "Satchel" full of $$$$'s for luggage to boot!!! It's hard these days to "Buy the Farm" and pay for it from the business proceeds. Alf
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Old 06-29-2023, 06:46 AM   #134
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When you say an inspection is no longer allowed are you saying that I couldn't go up early and check out the trailer before paying (and waiting a few days for payment to clear to pick up the trailer)?
when I purchased my trailer, Trailer had to be paid in full 30 days before delivery. Going up ahead of time for inspection was not possible as border was closed.
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Old 06-29-2023, 08:23 AM   #135
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Notice the emphasis on preparing the company for resale
Well, as they say in the biz, "If you don't like change, you're gonna hate extinction."
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Old 06-29-2023, 03:03 PM   #136
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Interesting that they still reference Northern Lite and Off Grid on the Ineed posting...I see that TriWest Capital Acquires Northern Lite Truck Campers And Off Grid Trailers in Sept 2022. So KV capital divested yet the Escape position description still references that KV owns them. Seems somewhat deceptive as the Indeed post was just 6 days ago.
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Old 06-29-2023, 04:42 PM   #137
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Interesting comparison to Scamp and ETI. Both started out as a mom and pop operation. While Scamp did very little product development over the years ETI developed several new models and sizes and grew by leaps and bounds.

I guess it's a business reality these days that if a mom and pop operation grows into a much larger more diversified operation it's going to be operated a little differently. More hard edged business than mom and pop operations.

Personally I can't complain, I'd rather have my 21C than a Scamp 16.

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Old 07-02-2023, 11:53 PM   #138
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Went to Escape on Wednesday morning. 6/28
Had a very enjoyable visit with Linda. She also showed us the new 23, it has some really nice features, Linda says there may still be some changes and optional features.

The 23 counter is long and has a lot of work space. The microwave is below and awkward to access (possible change) The trailer is wider so feels really big. The way the dinette is in the demo model it will not work as a bed (possible change) . Linda says they’ve had some really good suggestions from folks viewing it.

Nick showed us our new 5th wheel. He took his time explaining things. He even took the time to go back inside to find an answer to one question I had that he wasn’t sure of. Everyone we meet at Escape was very welcoming. For that matter it felt like everyone we meet in Canada was polite, which may have been more to do with us being in a good mood and excited about our 5th wheel. But all the Canadians we meet were nice.

Escape delivered the trailer to Bob’s Burger in Sumas WA. We camped that evening at Silver Springs campground (nice camp ground) about 25 minutes away and spent the next few hours checking all the appliances and fit and finish, the trailer looks great.

We are looking forward to more camping.
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Welcome to the Bob’s Burger trailer club! Time to update your profile!

The longer we’ve had ours, the more we’ve grown to like it.
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Old 07-03-2023, 07:18 PM   #140
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They are asking for a minimum of a Bachelor's degree in business administration, while "RV industry interest and knowledge would be considered an asset."
Wow. I meet the minimum qualifications to lead ETI! Eh!
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