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Old 08-04-2014, 02:07 PM   #181
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I wonder if moving the thermistor up/down is to adjust the relative cooling between the freezer and main compartment?
No, there is no way to control the compartments separately because there is a single cooling unit for the appliance.

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I don't think moving the sensor up/down is to adjust the overall temp. All 'fridges I've seen have a knob/button for overall adjust. I hear there are some which don't adjust, thus the Dinosaur Dometic Thermistor Adjuster.
Some electronically controlled Dometic models (including the one in my motorhome) do not have an electronic adjustment, and use this thermistor positioning method for adjustment. It is explained by both a label on the interior of the refrigerator, and a section in the manual. If you slide the thermistor up the fins it sees a warmer temperature, so the cooling unit runs more, and so the refrigerator gets colder.

This sometimes does not give enough adjustment range, perhaps because the thermistor is not properly calibrated, and thus the need for the aftermarket tweaking device.
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:41 PM   #182
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Not sure I understand the minimum temperatures charted. What does that mean in practical terms?
No, don't answer. I have a 5.0 cu. ft. and I'm glad not to be a part of the conversation.8)
gbaglo, would you at least take a look at the plate on your 5.0 and see if it states Climate Class like Myron's? I believe yours is an N.
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:59 PM   #183
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Good morning...

It a new day, and anther phone call to Dometic.

I looked at 4 different Dometic Models in RV's that are stored on our lot (not Escape's) and non of the labels have a Climate Class rating listed.

My Dometic contact had no idea of a Climate Class and is going to look into it to confirm what was listed. Not to discredit the information listed, but as we all know...just because it is on the internet...

They are now going to call the manufacturer in Germany to see if it is possible to add more cooling charge to the system to increase the cooling capacity. This may take a few days/weeks to get an answer.

There will be a fix, it just might take more time. I have confidence that we won't be left hanging with these units that aren't up to the task.

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Hi Reace would it be possible when ordering fridges ask for Climate Class T, are they available?
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:12 PM   #184
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I am just guessing here but I suspect if these different rated units are only European spec than wont they all be 240 volt . I seem to think its only North America the uses 120 v as standard .
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:20 PM   #185
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gbaglo, would you at least take a look at the plate on your 5.0 and see if it states Climate Class like Myron's? I believe yours is an N.

I see no Climate Class indicated.
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:45 PM   #186
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I understand some of you are frustrated with the performance of your fridge. The fridge brochure listed is not for North America. Non of the North American brochures list a climate class (that I can find) nor are they listed on the decal plates on the fridges...other than the 8 series units.

As new information comes up, I am presenting it to Dometic and looking for new information and advice on how to improve the fridge performance. As you are also aware, I am diligently working to tweak the current system for a better fridge performance. - I am working on your behalf, however....I am beginning to feel that this is not sufficient for some of you. Please feel free to contact Dometic directly. All of the warranty information is in the owner's package.

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Old 08-04-2014, 04:49 PM   #187
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I see no Climate Class indicated.
Thx! I noticed in Dometic's brochures that Climate Class is sometimes listed and sometimes not. Maybe this has to do with their markets...who knows?

Reace, we all appreciate your efforts...please don't mind all of us internet refrigeration engineers!!...
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:01 PM   #188
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Just read gbag's 2008 label. Think I see the problem here. Made in Sweden by a German company for sale in Canada by people in Indiana.
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:08 PM   #189
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I understand some of you are frustrated with the performance of your fridge. The fridge brochure listed is not for North America. Non of the North American brochures list a climate class (that I can find) nor are they listed on the decal plates on the fridges...other than the 8 series units.

As new information comes up, I am presenting it to Dometic and looking for new information and advice on how to improve the fridge performance. As you are also aware, I am diligently working to tweak the current system for a better fridge performance. - I am working on your behalf, however....I am beginning to feel that this is not sufficient for some of you. Please feel free to contact Dometic directly. All of the warranty information is in the owner's package.

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Having taken our fridge in for local warranty repair and being supported by Reace through the entire process, I put my trust in his working through this on our behalf. Anything I would tell Dometic at the point would probably only confuse things.
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:41 PM   #190
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Just read gbag's 2008 label. Think I see the problem here. Made in Sweden by a German company for sale in Canada by people in Indiana.
The Dometic Group is actually a Swedish company, with operations around the world, for sale by divisions in both the U.S. and Canada.
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:58 PM   #191
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This to Reace - we appreciate everything you are doing to get to the bottom of this cooling problem . I do not know of any other manufacturer who would bother and spend his time and effort as you have especially when you didn't even make these refrigerators . We Thankyou and just shows us why we went to great lengths to purchase your fine trailer . Thankyou again . 2013 19 ft Linda and Pat
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:18 PM   #192
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All this talk about fridge problems is unsettling, especially since my 17B, currently in production, will have the 4.3 fridge. It makes me wonder if I should have gone with the standard 3.0 fridge instead.
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:41 PM   #193
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Now now, no need for conclusion jumping. Remember immortal words of Charlie Chan: He who jump to conclusion will land on cabbage patch.
My 4.3 still number-one fridge-san with me.
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:54 PM   #194
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Also Dave and Jane, not all members are having issues, only those in the extreme southern portion of the US and then only some of them. I'd get the unit you want not the unit you think is better.
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:11 PM   #195
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A big thank you to Reace for his diligent attempts at solving fridge issues. We did a month in our 17 B in July throughout Washington and Oregon at 35+Celsius. The 4.3 8 series worked well on all settings. 12v when travelling, propane when boondocking, and shore power in campgrounds. We only open the fridge 3 or 4 times a day, and try to do it as quickly as possible. Ice in a cooler serves for cold beverages.
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:53 PM   #196
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All this talk about fridge problems is unsettling, especially since my 17B, currently in production, will have the 4.3 fridge. It makes me wonder if I should have gone with the standard 3.0 fridge instead.
No! Don't worry yourself about it. Look at all the posts. No two people travel the same, pack the refrig the same, in the same "weather."

I'm waiting to hear from Reace before I do anything necessary. NO drilling holes, removing freezers, etc., etc., etc. I am willing to give ETI a chance to SOLVE any issues before I jump to conclusions. YMMV

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Old 08-04-2014, 08:19 PM   #197
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I agree Donna . Lets all give Reece a chance here. He is thankfully working hard to improve this . I have posted that out old trailer fridge would freeze things if we were not careful . Keep in mind it was a pig on propane as well. I was always refilling the propane tanks and they were 30 lb bottles . Out 19 is much much easier on propane . I know some of that is furnace but It was largely the fridge . I suspect dometic has made these fridges much more efficient but now we just need to find a good balance between efficiency and performance . I ordered a fan fix and have it but I am certainly going to
Wait until we get our 21 in November and also to let ETI work with dometic
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Old 08-04-2014, 08:28 PM   #198
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To me, it almost sounds as if I am the only one who's fridge is working well, even in very hot conditions. Maybe the others with good fridge performance are not responding in these fridge threads. It would be interesting if someone knowledgeable about the forum could set up a questionaire to see how widespread this issue really is.
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:10 PM   #199
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Dave, I've been on the "all molded forums" for a very long time... I still think it's about how folks pack the frigs and where they park! Keep the frig in the shade (AFTERNOONS) and pack the frig according to how you BUY! Bananas, potatoes, lettuce, tomatoes, apples DON'T NEED TO BE COLD! Just kept cool.

Dairy and meat (protein) need to be kept cold.

Have y'all ever had an ambient temperature craft beer? You'll never drink a COLD one again, I promise.
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:24 PM   #200
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Reace, thank you! You have gone WAY above and beyond any expectation most of us could have! Thanks for all of your efforts! Hope you are getting a little R & R!
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