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Old 01-09-2017, 03:44 PM   #1
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Of LED Lights and Men

So I have the LED lights and they are often too bright. I found a good solution. These are battery powered movement sensored lights. I put one in the head to make sure I'm aiming the right direction, another above the stove on the inside of the door, and one above the dining table. Open the doors and the lights comes on. They shut off after 30" if no movement. Three to a package. Work great.

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Old 01-09-2017, 04:21 PM   #2
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That bathroom is nice! You could have a party in there.......
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I thought they were a bit bright too (and very white), so I picked up some yellow vellum, folded it, and placed it inside the lamp housings in the dinette area and above the wardrobe. Due to the LEDs running very cool, nothing has melted. Now they throw nice, warm yellow light.

I left the kitchen lights as they were -- bright white LEDs are great for task lighting.

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I thought they were a bit bright too (and very white), so I picked up some yellow vellum...
Yes, I did a similar installation with gel film (or whatever it's called) but only in the dining area. This pic shows the difference...
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Yes, I did a similar installation with gel film (or whatever it's called) but only in the dining area. This pic shows the difference...
That's an interesting solution. Many here probably know, but some may not, that when replacing LED's for closer to incandescent (warmer) go with a lower Kelvin like 3000K or less. The really sharp, bright white is up around 6000K+ and is too cool for most. We replaced all the bulbs in the trailer with a warm white and it makes a huge difference. I have found the warm white are more expensive because they are harder to make, but with the technology advancing rapidly this is probably less of an issue. This is a great site to find any replacement bulb you may need:

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/r...acement-bulbs/
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To add a data point.... The Escape ceiling lamps with the single or dual led panel held in with a screew. Reece told me, those fixtures are Kaper II L09-0111 (double) or L09-0110 (single) Escape used Daylight White, but you can also get Natural White (-NW) .... I found a NW replacement led last year, I'm trying to remember where, because I want a few more.

My E21 has 9 of those, 6 singles, and 3 doubles, also 4 captains/reading lamps.
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Old 06-26-2020, 11:32 PM   #7
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To add a data point.... The Escape ceiling lamps with the single or dual led panel held in with a screew. Reece told me, those fixtures are Kaper II L09-0111 (double) or L09-0110 (single) Escape used Daylight White, but you can also get Natural White (-NW) .... I found a NW replacement led last year, I'm trying to remember where, because I want a few more.

My E21 has 9 of those, 6 singles, and 3 doubles, also 4 captains/reading lamps.

to resurrect this thread, I just replaced /most/ of the ceiling lamp LED panels with these,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C5QC3H6

distinctly warmer, but just about the same brightness. I left the ones over the kitchen area alone, as I know my wife likes BRIGHT light when she's cooking.

these don' t have a screw like the originals, but they are smaller/lighter, and fit snugly into the wedge socket so I'm not real worried about them rattling out on a rough road. they also center up nicely over the 'magnifying' lens in the fixture cover so provide a nice ligthing pattern.

the left lamp is the new 'warm' ones, the right one is the original, to see the color balance difference..
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to resurrect this thread, I just replaced /most/ of the ceiling lamp LED panels with these,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C5QC3H6

distinctly warmer, but just about the same brightness. I left the ones over the kitchen area alone, as I know my wife likes BRIGHT light when she's cooking.

these don' t have a screw like the originals, but they are smaller/lighter, and fit snugly into the wedge socket so I'm not real worried about them rattling out on a rough road. they also center up nicely over the 'magnifying' lens in the fixture cover so provide a nice ligthing pattern.

the left lamp is the new 'warm' ones, the right one is the original, to see the color balance difference..
Thank you for resurrecting this thread John! We followed suit and replaced all the ceiling overhead LED panels (and the kitchen ones!) with your recommended new ones and LOVE them. We much prefer the warm lights to the cool white lights. What a difference - much cozier! Thanks, -Bea
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Thank you for resurrecting this thread John! We followed suit and replaced all the ceiling overhead LED panels (and the kitchen ones!) with your recommended new ones and LOVE them. We much prefer the warm lights to the cool white lights. What a difference - much cozier! Thanks, -Bea

No, no... Much WARMER. 😎
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Now, I mostly use the reading lamps in all 4 corners, or just 2 opposite since I put the less bright warm floods. Hated the original cold white lamps.
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Thanks for that link John. We switched ours out too and very much like the difference. I have an extra pack of them sitting around. I only needed about 12. They sold me 20.
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to resurrect this thread, I just replaced /most/ of the ceiling lamp LED panels with these,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C5QC3H6

distinctly warmer, but just about the same brightness. I left the ones over the kitchen area alone, as I know my wife likes BRIGHT light when she's cooking.

these don' t have a screw like the originals, but they are smaller/lighter, and fit snugly into the wedge socket so I'm not real worried about them rattling out on a rough road. they also center up nicely over the 'magnifying' lens in the fixture cover so provide a nice ligthing pattern.

the left lamp is the new 'warm' ones, the right one is the original, to see the color balance difference..
I replaced a couple with those. Love the warmth but too bright for me reading with the Kindle so I'm going to switch which lamps get the two I got. Front of the trailer was dark so it gets one, and probably the countertop. Need to find warm but not so bright ones for the back.
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I replaced a couple with those. Love the warmth but too bright for me reading with the Kindle so I'm going to switch which lamps get the two I got. Front of the trailer was dark so it gets one, and probably the countertop. Need to find warm but not so bright ones for the back.
I use the captains lights in the corners for reading, both in the front bed and rear dinette on the E21.... These MR11 lamps in warm white are in all but my wife's side of the dinette, https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...tributes/10932

she wanted a little more light, so her side of the dinette gets one of these... https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...uivalent/3663/

k, the MR11 is on the right of this pic,, and the MR16 on the left. middle light is on for color balance/comparison.




and this is the original too-blue captains lamp on the left, MR11 on the right.




note that original lamp didn't have a very good pattern, with a hot spot in the middle and an annoying ring of light around the outside. the replacement lamps both have a much smoother pattern.
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I replaced a couple with those. Love the warmth but too bright for me reading with the Kindle so I'm going to switch which lamps get the two I got. Front of the trailer was dark so it gets one, and probably the countertop. Need to find warm but not so bright ones for the back.
On the back of those Amazon lights are a number of little tiny chip resistors. Since I have 20 of those little lamps I took one and carefully sliced about half of the resistors off using a box cutter with a fresh tip, each resistor you cut out kills about four of the LEDs, so I have a couple of them now that only have two resistors left and some others that have four resistors left and I strategically positioned those in places where I do not want full brightness. Works great
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That one has just 2 sets left. As I said, each chip resistor powers 3 LEDs, so this one has just 6 of the original 24 LEDs powered. The lonely resistor on the side powers the three right above the connector so it was the first to go,

Be careful not to mess with the larger bridge diode chip in the middle
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Ok, this one has 4 R's left, for 12 total LEDs, 50% original brightness



It looks like this ...



(Full chip on top, 50% chip on the bottom)
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