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06-20-2021, 04:26 PM
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#101
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Originally Posted by Crazypill
Don't they take your $500? $500 is $500.  |
What would be an acceptable alternative to you and ETI?
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06-20-2021, 04:33 PM
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#102
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Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Full-time, Nevada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
What would be an acceptable alternative to you and ETI?
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Some amount of guarantee that if I make the deposit there's only a specific relative percentage (5-10%) window in which projected prices can move, maybe? Excluding a dramatic and unforeseen macroeconomic trend during which, if forced to honor existing price agreements, would cause ETI to go out of business. In which case, the deposit would be fully refunded if it goes outside of agreed parameters.
IDK I'm not an expert on pretty much anything. Just an idea.
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06-20-2021, 04:46 PM
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#103
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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ETI could have hundreds of orders coming in and being cancelled by those who found a used trailer they could get sooner.
Apparently Scamp does refund the full amount ( don't count on it ).
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06-20-2021, 04:47 PM
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#104
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
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Originally Posted by Crazypill
Shame things always go this way with investor ownership.
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So there was never a price increase by Escape Trailer Industries in the years that the founders owned it? I don't think that's true.
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06-20-2021, 04:48 PM
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#105
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Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Full-time, Nevada
Trailer: 2022 21NE
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I think in my example the $500 is fair value to ETI, they would just add a price change outlook and allow you a full refund if it exceeds the outlook conveyed to you. I don't think this idea would cause them to have a totally fuzzed order flow. They would still collect your $500 if you bought used instead.
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06-20-2021, 05:03 PM
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#106
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Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: South Lake Tahoe, California
Trailer: 2017 5.0
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For me they only kept $150 for processing fees which is reasonable to me...
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06-20-2021, 05:48 PM
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#107
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Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Dallas, Texas
Trailer: 2019 E19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazypill
Don't they take your $500? $500 is $500. |
Currently,
You put down $2k and if you cancel before signing off on the build sheet then you're refunded all but $150.
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06-20-2021, 05:56 PM
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#108
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Alcoa, Tennessee
Trailer: 2015 5.0 TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
So there was never a price increase by Escape Trailer Industries in the years that the founders owned it? I don't think that's true.
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There was always a price increase, but it was figured in when i made my deposit. The only increases after that were for the upgrades and additions which had the prices included in the build sheet
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06-20-2021, 06:18 PM
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#109
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: St Augustine, Florida
Trailer: 5.0 TA Delivered 4/7/22
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I think prices were guaranteed through 2021. I don't think its unreasonable for a price increase for 2022 trailers. I'm going to have to pony up with 2022 prices. I don't think its fair that lumber prices (us) are up about 130% or so and steel even higher. I don't now what percentage fiberglass and resin are up but its significant. Totally reasonable for a biz to pass these costs on to end consumer to either buy or not...I'm hoping for 5% but Its wishful thinking,lol
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06-20-2021, 09:13 PM
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#110
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Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Cold Spring, Kentucky
Trailer: 2022 21C + 2021 F-150 PowerBoost 4x4
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I’m pretty sure in one of Escape’s latest update videos Karl Kenny said the price increase for 2022 should be at a level of 5%, and he attributed that to increased vendor and materials cost. Also, it has been stated up front that the $2000 deposit is fully refundable less the credit card processing fee of $150. This is the case up to the point the buyer signs off on the build sheet. Seems reasonable enough to me.
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06-20-2021, 09:32 PM
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#111
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Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Full-time, Nevada
Trailer: 2022 21NE
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That does seem fair. I have been watching tons of their videos lately but not all. I think I'll go ahead with the deposit. I already have a pretty good idea about the options too. Time to settle in for a long wait... unfortunate timing, but I am ready and overdue for a change of pace in my life!!
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06-21-2021, 11:49 AM
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#112
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captmath
There was always a price increase, but it was figured in when i made my deposit. The only increases after that were for the upgrades and additions which had the prices included in the build sheet
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Okay, that makes sense: locking in prices at deposit time. It has become common to take deposits with no guarantee of the price (as is now done on coming models of vehicles, mostly electric), but in that case the deposit should be fully refundable, and the customer must understand the terms.
I don't blame any company for choosing not to lock in the price at deposit time with a substantial delay and uncertain conditions before production.
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06-21-2021, 08:24 PM
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#113
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
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Houses are up.
Land is up
Food is up
Car prices are up
Fuel is up
Energy is up
Trailer prices staying the same? Not likely.
Iowa Dave
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