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Old 11-24-2021, 12:07 AM   #1
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Defensive driving with your Escape

Recently I saw some photos of a 5.0 that had been rear ended in traffic.

What types of defensive things do you do when towing?

One thing I do is I turn on my emergency flashers when traffic slows, Or there is some issue causing me to slow down. Wrecks, construction zones, etc.

There are so many distracted drivers out there.

I also carry an array of hazard flashers and reflectors should I find myself broke down on a dark road.
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I carry one of these in my TV and one in trailer. Each light can work and charge independently or in this configuration.

It puts out 2000 lumens.
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Old 11-24-2021, 12:24 AM   #3
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Recently we broke down in my wife’s car. Bad alternator. We lost all power including all lights along a busy dark road. 2 hr wait for a tow truck. When we got the car home I stocked all the vehicles with three of these emergency flairs.
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I have some LED hazard triangles, which reminds me, I should check the batteries.
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I have put a switch in the trailer so that I can flash all my trailer lights should I have to separate it from the tow vehicle.
I have removed the spare tire from the rear so it is less likely to be pushed into the body.
I have welded on bumperetts to help protect the body.
I have added approved reflect tape to the rear bumper.
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One thing I do is I turn on my emergency flashers when traffic slows, Or there is some issue causing me to slow down. Wrecks, construction zones, etc.

There are so many distracted drivers out there.

I also carry an array of hazard flashers and reflectors should I find myself broke down on a dark road.
As the sargent on Hill Street Blues would say, "Be careful out there, it's a jungle."

I tow with the same mentality as I ride a motorcycle or fly in close proximity to other aircraft. It's an awareness that a mistake by anyone around me could ruin my day. Situational awareness. I'm always monitoring traffic behind me and if traffic suddenly starts slowing or I see that traffic ahead is slowing I pump the brakes. Sometimes not even enough to actually start slowing but to pulse the brakes lights and add extra visibilty. I like the dual rear lights at the rear. It adds an extra level of visibility.

Also I carry a reflective triangle to use if I'm forced to pull over in a high traffic area.

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Old 11-24-2021, 08:08 AM   #7
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I carry one of these in my TV and one in trailer. Each light can work and charge independently or in this configuration.

It puts out 2000 lumens.
So what is the brand and model of your light? It looks impressive
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Old 11-24-2021, 08:44 AM   #8
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I use/recommend these: https://www.amazon.com/Emergency-Roa...a-905823799135
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A secondary benefit of a Stowaway box or cargo carrier on the rear is some protection in the event of a rear end accident. In our case if the vehicle is tall they'll run into the box. If the vehicle is lower hopefully they run into the heavy duty riser in the receiver. It also has bright LED lights that supplement the trailer lights. The 21 I had modified for viator36's mini-split was rear ended in Georgia. The extended rear bumper and an empty, folded bike rack saved the trailer from any major damage. The mini-split condenser survived with only a small dent and a bent mounting foot. There most likely would have been damage to the trailer shell with just the standard bumper.

Something like this that goes into the receiver and extends rearward could also be used for some protection if one does not have a rear box/cargo carrier or bike rack:
https://www.amazon.com/Go-Rhino-360T...84440569&psc=1

I was almost in an accident yesterday on the highway when someone coming up in the left lane very fast took the middle lane as I was moving over from the right lane. Looking over my shoulder and a quick reaction saved me. Drive safe my friends.
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Old 11-24-2021, 11:33 AM   #12
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Talking Driving with idiots

Most of my career was in outside sales. I average depending upon the position 30 to 60,000 miles a year in a company car. I averaged one moving violation every 10 years and one traffic collision every eight years. I was always dead stopped and had somebody run into the back of me. No matter what you do sooner or later one of the idiots out there is going to get you. You can do those protective measures that make sense. Keep your driving safe in saying but we can't protect ourselves from idiots.
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In 45 years of driving I've only been involved in two accidents, rear-ended twice, both times while stopped. Sometimes there's nothing you can do.
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One thing I do is I turn on my emergency flashers when traffic slows, Or there is some issue causing me to slow down. Wrecks, construction zones, etc.
Please don't use your four-way flashers when you're not moving more slowly than other traffic. It just adds to the general level of distraction, with the crude combined signal and stop lamps of a trailer it obscures the stop (braking) indication, and on any vehicle it keeps the turning indication from working. When the traffic ahead of and behind you is moving at the same speed that you are, the extra flashing is pointless.

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I also carry an array of hazard flashers and reflectors should I find myself broke down on a dark road.
That's a good idea.
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The older I get the more I do my best to not be driving after dark, especially when towing something.
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Be sure to check these periodically. I got mine out a few weeks back and 2 of 5 were not working. Cleaned up and replaced batteries and got them all going.
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Please don't use your four-way flashers when you're not moving more slowly than other traffic. It just adds to the general level of distraction, with the crude combined signal and stop lamps of a trailer it obscures the stop (braking) indication, and on any vehicle it keeps the turning indication from working. When the traffic ahead of and behind you is moving at the same speed that you are, the extra flashing is pointless.
Interestingly, this is kind of cultural, but I agree that since flashers are not normally used this way in North America, it can be ineffective here.

I recall travelling to South Korea in the late 1990's and noticing that it was very normal that all drivers on a highway would activate the hazards when running into a slowdown. A sea of blinking 4-way flashers was the common visual clue that a driver was approaching a slowdown. It worked just fine.

Here in the US, this isn't all that common, and a more normal sign of a slowdown here is a sea of brake lights being on. I'm not sure, visually, there is much difference as long as all drivers do the same thing.
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I recall travelling to South Korea in the late 1990's and noticing that it was very normal that all drivers on a highway would activate the hazards when running into a slowdown. A sea of blinking 4-way flashers was the common visual clue that a driver was approaching a slowdown. It worked just fine.
I've also seen that in Mexico in construction zones where there's a flag person. I think that it's very effective, especially for the workers, to see a visual indication that the driver's have acknowledged the situation and folks there do seem to obey slower speed reguirements.

Maybe it would be worth trying here. We get flaggers and workers killed by ignorant drivers blasting through construction zones.

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Interestingly, this is kind of cultural, but I agree that since flashers are not normally used this way in North America, it can be ineffective here.

I recall travelling to South Korea in the late 1990's and noticing that it was very normal that all drivers on a highway would activate the hazards when running into a slowdown. A sea of blinking 4-way flashers was the common visual clue that a driver was approaching a slowdown. It worked just fine.

Here in the US, this isn't all that common, and a more normal sign of a slowdown here is a sea of brake lights being on. I'm not sure, visually, there is much difference as long as all drivers do the same thing.
In the U.S., big rig drivers are required by law to use 4-way flashers on freeways if travelling at 45 mph or less when other traffic is travelling at normal speeds, usually used due to mechanical or tire issue or when climbing or descending steep grades. They will also typically use them when slowing down due to traffic slow downs. These situations would all be appropriate for use when hauling a TT.
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Please don't use your four-way flashers when you're not moving more slowly than other traffic. It just adds to the general level of distraction, with the crude combined signal and stop lamps of a trailer it obscures the stop (braking) indication, and on any vehicle it keeps the turning indication from working. When the traffic ahead of and behind you is moving at the same speed that you are, the extra flashing is pointless.


That's a good idea.

I use them when traffic slows or come to a stop when it should be moving Not at regular speeds. I also put them on when approaching patrol cars on side of road with flashing lights.

I have had two separate wa state troopers give me a thumbs up as I passed by.
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