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11-01-2015, 04:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Longview, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15B - 2014 Nissan Frontier SL
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floating Cloud
We considered that and I know you save money getting a portable. We, however, are usually out all day and would not be leaving a panel there.
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We use a portable along with a good bicycle cable and lock when we are gone. No problems. Like a lot of things about our trailers a determined thief would have no trouble taking just about anything including what's inside. So, we do what is best for us, a portable, use deterrents, and make friends with our camp neighbors. So far, so good.
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Tim and Julie
2013 Escape 15B
2014 Nissan Frontier, Previous 2012 Santa Fe
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11-01-2015, 04:58 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,193
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Here's a picture of my black tank, and.... It has straps. Beefy ones (for heavy loads).
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Myron
"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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11-01-2015, 05:26 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Klem
Does it have the side flanges plus the straps? Or just straps? (end view?)
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I don't think so, all I have to go by are a couple pictures ETI took before the foam went on and you certainly can't tell afterwards. Maybe someone without foam on their 5.0TA can say for sure.
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Bob
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11-01-2015, 05:53 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by techfan
We use a portable along with a good bicycle cable and lock when we are gone. No problems. Like a lot of things about our trailers a determined thief would have no trouble taking just about anything including what's inside. So, we do what is best for us, a portable, use deterrents, and make friends with our camp neighbors. So far, so good.
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Excellent idea just be friendly with your neighbor and you can get 15 heavy duty coated cable ,add a good lock . It will keep someone from just walking away . If someone has bad intentions not much you can do . Just don't make it easy for them .Pat
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11-01-2015, 06:36 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by techfan
We use a portable along with a good bicycle cable and lock when we are gone. No problems. Like a lot of things about our trailers a determined thief would have no trouble taking just about anything including what's inside. So, we do what is best for us, a portable, use deterrents, and make friends with our camp neighbors. So far, so good.
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It certainly does depend on where you are and what people are around you. I'd grab the awnings!
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"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
Emerson
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11-01-2015, 06:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Janesville, WI, Wisconsin
Trailer: Escape 19 (sold) Escape 21 2014
Posts: 1,887
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I have written a paper in the files section called Solar Made Easy. In that paper I describe how to wire a external solar panel to the front tow vehicle connector. The system I describe works very well on an Escape 19, but not as well with a 17 or 21. The reason the connector will not work as well on these two models is the distance the batteries are from the connector at the tongue of the trailer. Having batteries that could be 20 even 30 feet of wiring away from the connector at the tongue will render the solar panel very inefficient, simply too much electrical loss due to wire gauge and distance.
However, with the 17 battery on the rear bumper it is very easy to use a different connector at the battery and have a very efficient solar system. As Gbaglo pointed out you will need a solar controller and it should be connected within one meter of the battery. The 21 does require an opening through the shell and skiman shows one of a number of connectors to connect through the fiberglass.
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2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 now 2012 Toyota Sequoia V8
Escape 19' 2010 now 2014 Escape 21'
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11-01-2015, 11:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Yes, it does appear that mounting (of the fresh water and grey waste) tanks depends on which tank, which model, and perhaps which year of production.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
Here's a picture of my black tank, and.... It has straps.
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I believe that's your grey waste tank, Myron. The black waste tank sits on top of the floor, under the toilet; only the fresh and grey tanks are under the floor (and I agree that's a waste tank, not fresh).
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11-02-2015, 11:26 AM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,193
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You're right! Had to go see for myself and take a better picture.
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"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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11-02-2015, 12:10 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Arvada, Colorado
Trailer: 2015 E'21 - 'Velocity'. Tow: Toyota Tacoma V6, 4X4, manual.
Posts: 1,697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by techfan
We use a portable along with a good bicycle cable and lock when we are gone. No problems. Like a lot of things about our trailers a determined thief would have no trouble taking just about anything including what's inside. So, we do what is best for us, a portable, use deterrents, and make friends with our camp neighbors. So far, so good.
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I worried about the unattended panel growing legs while I was away - so added this A-frame and anchored the assembly with a couple of ground screws plus lock and chain. As mentioned, a determined thief could get away with the whole thing but I don't put much effort into worrying about things like that.
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Alan
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11-02-2015, 01:06 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alanmalk
I worried about the unattended panel growing legs while I was away - so added this A-frame and anchored the assembly with a couple of ground screws plus lock and chain. As mentioned, a determined thief could get away with the whole thing but I don't put much effort into worrying about things like that.
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Almost the same idea we have . The Go Power we have has a folding frame already attached . So we cable the folding panels to trailer A Frame . The cable we use will go out just about the wiring length that is attached to our panel .It's a 1/2 or 3/8 , I forgot which , braided vinyl coated cable . Have a shorter one 6 ft for Weber to attach to something , table etc. it is a shame we have to go to these lengths , but I can't really afford to keep replacing this time in my life . Pat
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11-02-2015, 01:38 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Olympia wa, Washington
Trailer: 5.0TA 2017
Posts: 2,255
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is the fresh water tack in the front of the trailer or back?
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11-02-2015, 02:01 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2012 15A
Posts: 398
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stephen99
Thinking about joining the RV community when I retire. I like the looks of the Escape. I know nothing much about trailers in general. I know from reading other posts in this forum that the shell thickness is about 1/8 inch. How is the shell insulated? If you order the extra insulation option what exactly are you getting above and beyond the standard build?
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My understanding is that the basic insulation is the visible liner which has a small R Value. This liner does not cover 100% of the wall areas, mostly just what is visible.
The extra insulation is the reflective insulation that is added to all the wall areas along with the standard visible liner and the double pane windows.
So some areas have two layers of insulation and others only have one layer being the reflective insulation.
As others noted, the floor is not insulated unless you get the foam underneath.
Hope this makes sense?
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11-02-2015, 04:19 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Olympia wa, Washington
Trailer: 5.0TA 2017
Posts: 2,255
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i like the foam insulation keeps the floor warm
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11-02-2015, 04:37 PM
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#34
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox hunt
i like the foam insulation keeps the floor warm
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We use floor runners and three dogs that sleep under the dinette. Always warm feet under there!
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11-02-2015, 08:57 PM
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#35
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox hunt
is the fresh water tack in the front of the trailer or back?
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The fresh water tank is in the back on the 19, below the queen bed.
Kelly
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11-02-2015, 10:22 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox hunt
is the fresh water tack in the front of the trailer or back?
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I believe that all models have the fresh water tank behind the axle(s), under the floor. Similarly, the grey tank is ahead of the axle(s), and the black tank is always on top the floor, under the toilet and generally extending into the bottom of an adjacent seat base or cabinet.
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11-02-2015, 10:56 PM
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#37
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Everett, Washington
Trailer: 17' Escape Floor B
Posts: 55
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I went to a carpet outlet, paid 20 bucks and wall to walled my whole floor.
Have a decorative runner down the middle. Looks pretty nice
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11-03-2015, 04:28 AM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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What Ron wad referring to is correct, Thr tanks are supported by the frame along two edged and secured with straps.
I strongly advise getting the foam as it encapsulates the entire under belly and frame. A lot less frame exposed to road salt with the foam option and definitely a lot warmer
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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11-03-2015, 10:16 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
What Ron wad referring to is correct, Thr tanks are supported by the frame along two edged and secured with straps.
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Do you have a photo of this, Jim? I've seen tanks with stepped sides supported by framework under the step (such as Myron's fresh tank), and tanks supported by straps (such as Myron's grey tank), but I haven't seen the same tank supported by both methods yet.
In an earlier discussion - Water tank security - the freshwater tank of the 5.0TA (which is apparently the same as the 5.0) was shown supported by two straps, like Myron's grey waste tank.
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11-04-2015, 04:00 AM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I can not find the pictures, it was way back when ETI changed their frames and showed the tanks sitting inside the new frames. But with changes from 3-4" frames and new 21 and 5.0 TA models, I'm no longer that sure of what is now on the units. But either way I'm sure Reace is on top of any issues. Why not get then answer from the horse's mouth so to speak. He could explain better than anyone.
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