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02-10-2021, 07:50 PM
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Moorhead, Minnesota
Trailer: 2024 21C ---------- 2023 Toyota Tundra Platinum
Posts: 30
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Remove Manual Awning from 21C
We are going to buy a 21C and are thinking through all the options.
We don't want an awning because we don't want to deal with keeping it clean, undamaged from the wind, etc. The first thought was to order it without the awning, but ETI does not give a credit if you opt out of having it.
It would be nice to have it when it comes time to sell the trailer, so I have been thinking about ordering the trailer with a manual awning, then just take it off and store it until we sell it.
Question: How hard would it be to take the awning off? Is there any reason that would be a bad idea?
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02-10-2021, 07:56 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Just get it. It will keep the area in front of your door dry so you'll have someplace to leave your boots, and not track mud through the trailer.
You don't have to fully extend the manual awning ( not sure about the power one ). When it's reefed like that, it is less susceptible to damage.
Mine is just fine after 12 years, and not much of a maintenance issue.
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02-10-2021, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Baytown, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape - upgraded version
Posts: 2,697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottarue
We are going to buy a 21C and are thinking through all the options.
We don't want an awning because we don't want to deal with keeping it clean, undamaged from the wind, etc. The first thought was to order it without the awning, but ETI does not give a credit if you opt out of having it.
It would be nice to have it when it comes time to sell the trailer, so I have been thinking about ordering the trailer with a manual awning, then just take it off and store it until we sell it.
Question: How hard would it be to take the awning off? Is there any reason that would be a bad idea?
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I have the electric awning - when not in use, it is in an enclosure that keeps the awning fabric clean. We rarely use the awning so after four years, it still looks new.
Removing the manual awning would require filling a number of holes in the fiberglass shell - I wouldn't recommend it.
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02-10-2021, 08:27 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 2,720
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I took these reference shots of the manual awning when I was at Escape last.
You should be able to open the crimp on one or both ends of the horizontal track and slide it out. I would leave the horizontal track in place and possibly the side brackets. However you could fill the holes of just the side brackets with stainless steal screws and cup washers filled with a sealer.
If that is what you want to do...
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02-11-2021, 04:48 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,120
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I would never go without an awning.
We had a 1977 Trillium 4500 15', No awning, we didn't like the fact that it didn't have an awning. We came from a 14' tent trailer (full 14'box with highwall) and it had the awning, it was nice to keep the driving rain out of the trailer when going in and out.
With the Escape, our manual awning can be tipped to allow the rain to go to the low spot on the site. We keep our chairs under the awning out of the rain and the morning dew. We hang towels on the awning. We hang lights on the awning. The LED light strip lights up the awning. I would never get rid of the awning. Did I mention, in the rain, the awning keeps the rain from coming in the sliding windows.
Keep the awning.
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02-11-2021, 05:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DFW, Texas
Trailer: 2018 21 Sept 7 2018
Posts: 1,073
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To keep it from unfurling one can instal the rv awning lock which several of us have on our manual awning. I took it one step further and fabricated a spring clip for the awning latch out of spring steel. They keep the awning from unfurling. Both only take about 5 mins to instal. No worries then. Cleaning your awning only ads about 5 mins or so to the annual or semi annual cleaning and waxing of your escape to keep it shinny.
David
When the sun comes up I’ll go n take some pics n post
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02-11-2021, 08:54 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Venice, Florida
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,285
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottarue
We are going to buy a 21C and are thinking through all the options.
We don't want an awning because we don't want to deal with keeping it clean, undamaged from the wind, etc. The first thought was to order it without the awning, but ETI does not give a credit if you opt out of having it.
It would be nice to have it when it comes time to sell the trailer, so I have been thinking about ordering the trailer with a manual awning, then just take it off and store it until we sell it.
Question: How hard would it be to take the awning off? Is there any reason that would be a bad idea?
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You could take the fabric off and secure the arms with nylon wire ties. That way the fabric will be like new when it comes time to sell the trailer.
That was pretty much the way my trailer was delivered since they had awning supply issues in September.
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02-11-2021, 09:10 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Trailer: 2021 Escape E5.0; 2021 F150 PowerBoost
Posts: 1,193
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldtimer
To keep it from unfurling one can instal the rv awning lock which several of us have on our manual awning. I took it one step further and fabricated a spring clip for the awning latch out of spring steel. They keep the awning from unfurling. Both only take about 5 mins to instal. No worries then. Cleaning your awning only ads about 5 mins or so to the annual or semi annual cleaning and waxing of your escape to keep it shinny.
David
When the sun comes up I’ll go n take some pics n post
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We are getting a manual awning. We aren’t going to be able to fabricate anything but are interested in the awning lock. Any information or link on how they work and where to acquire them would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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02-11-2021, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Janesville, WI, Wisconsin
Trailer: Escape 19 (sold) Escape 21 2014
Posts: 1,885
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kavm
We are getting a manual awning. We aren’t going to be able to fabricate anything but are interested in the awning lock. Any information or link on how they work and where to acquire them would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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A Velcro wrap around both awning bars, installed at the top of the bar. This method courtesy of CPA Harley. Camco sells Awning Straps for about $6, purposely made. Just about any Velcro straps would work.
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2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 now 2012 Toyota Sequoia V8
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02-11-2021, 09:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Janesville, WI, Wisconsin
Trailer: Escape 19 (sold) Escape 21 2014
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A complaint I have about the manual awning is it will frequently get wet on the inside. Particularly when driving in any rain. The result is, mold will form on both sides of the awning surfaces. It is possible to clean the majority of the mold off but stubborn streaks remain. After six years the fabric still appears in good shape, just a minor irritation.
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2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 now 2012 Toyota Sequoia V8
Escape 19' 2010 now 2014 Escape 21'
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02-11-2021, 09:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Victoria, British Columbia
Trailer: Escape #2 On The Way
Posts: 264
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Get the awning but don't use it. Shouldn't get dirty if never out and will be there for resale.
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02-11-2021, 09:25 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Trailer: 2021 Escape E5.0; 2021 F150 PowerBoost
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fudge_brownie
A Velcro wrap around both awning bars, installed at the top of the bar. This method courtesy of CPA Harley. Camco sells Awning Straps for about $6, purposely made. Just about any Velcro straps would work.
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Thank you very much! Appreciate it.
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02-11-2021, 10:21 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DFW, Texas
Trailer: 2018 21 Sept 7 2018
Posts: 1,073
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awninglock.com is the website to purchase the lock
David
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02-11-2021, 10:26 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Overbrook, Kansas
Trailer: 2021 E19 (Padawan)
Posts: 1,990
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I’ve never needed a lock in 50 years, but I have heard of it happening. I might be next, who knows. If you want something fancier, there is this:
Save Your RV Awning with an RV Awning Travel Lock!
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1998 C 2500 (Cruncher) and 2021 Ranger (Yoda)
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02-11-2021, 10:30 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Farmington Hills, Michigan
Trailer: 2021 Escape 19
Posts: 649
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I have never had a problem with an awning needing a lock.
I will second that I consider an awning as an essential item. Since I use mine to create a dry 'porch' area, only the manual types that I can keep deployed and possibly even tied out in a storm are of use.
The automatic awnings are nice in terms of staying clean and being easy to deploy, but they are completely useless for what I need an awning to do. To me, the automatic awnings are sunshades, probably great for people in the southwest US.
And yeah, even a rolled up manual awning will get soaked all through. They tend to get a bit dirty and stay that way permanently. It comes with the territory.
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02-11-2021, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DFW, Texas
Trailer: 2018 21 Sept 7 2018
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Here’s the RVLock Instaled and the clip I made out of spring steel.
David
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02-11-2021, 11:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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This Velcro strap keeps the two parts of the arm from spreading, so the awning stays put.
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02-11-2021, 11:26 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Venice, Florida
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TTMartin
You could take the fabric off and secure the arms with nylon wire ties. That way the fabric will be like new when it comes time to sell the trailer.
That was pretty much the way my trailer was delivered since they had awning supply issues in September.
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Here's a picture of my trailer as delivered, with the awning supports wire tied closed.
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02-11-2021, 12:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Naples, New York
Trailer: 2020 Esacpe 19'(Hillbilly Heaven) ETI best named trailer of the year
Posts: 1,204
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we don't use the awning very much. We considered getting trailer with out it. In the end we upgraded to the power awning. We liked the fact it did not interfere with the windows opening on the frame less windows. while closed the fabric is it protected. seems the trailer shell is designed around it. The extra cost was worth it to us. I do reserve the right to change my mine if the motor ever fails.
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02-11-2021, 12:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fudge_brownie
A Velcro wrap around both awning bars, installed at the top of the bar. This method courtesy of CPA Harley. Camco sells Awning Straps for about $6, purposely made. Just about any Velcro straps would work.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
This Velcro strap keeps the two parts of the arm from spreading, so the awning stays put.
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It is a misconception that those straps will keep an awning from unfurling. I feel much better with one end of a gear tie wrapped around the open/close lever and then pulled and wrapped around the awning arm such that it keeps the lever in the closed position. It's not the same as a positive lock on the roller like the awning lock but it will certainly keep the lever in the closed position. Only an internal failure of the awning roller locking mechanism would allow the roller to rotate.
https://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-Orig.../dp/B00SHBO2Q2
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