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09-15-2019, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Opelika, Alabama
Trailer: 2012 19
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replacing upper led tail light strip
Some of the leds in the upper tail lights are out and so I ordered replacements. When I removed one of the strips it seems there is very little slake in the wires (2 inches) to work with. Is this all there is or do I need to pull harder? Thanks in advance.
Graham
2012 19
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09-15-2019, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Trailer: 2012 Escape-19
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Pull Harder
FWIW The rear top center bar should only have 3 lights lit for a trailer over 80"
wide. (There is a different part # from the full light bar.) I think my trailer had a center full light bar with burnt out lights like yours.(Been a while since replacement.) I pulled my upper light and had very little slack. Called ETI they said to cut the headliner in the cabinet. Once cut I was able to free up plenty of wire. Sealant from the shell hole was holding the wire in the trailer.
If you cut the headliner do it at the upper edge of the tabbing strip which holds up the cabinet base. You can then stain an oak strip and screw it to the tabbing strip that covers up the cut in the head liner.
Eddie
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09-15-2019, 12:49 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
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I replaced the driver side strip and had plenty of wire but I had to tug it a bit to free it up. From the build pictures I have of mine it looks like they taped the wiring to the side of the trailer here and there. I did leave it as long as I could for the next time...
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Bob
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09-15-2019, 04:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19' and 2016 GMC Yukon SLT SUV.
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What is the tail LED light model number and where can you buy them except contacting ETI?
Thanks.
Tonny LR
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09-15-2019, 04:31 PM
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Here you go, read this and the next post. I got one from etrailer.
http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f9...tml#post241736
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Bob
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09-15-2019, 04:40 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Trailer: 2012 Escape-19
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This is what was on my trailer. The upper and lower tail lights were Bargman 47-54-001 available from Amazon. The center upper light should be a Bargman 47-54-002, ID bar ( With only 3 lit LED's) also listed on Amazon. The lights are on my 2014, E-21. About a foot long and in. inch tall.
Eddie
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09-16-2019, 09:13 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Thank you everyone for the tail lights parts info.
Tonny LR
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09-16-2019, 09:56 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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These lights on the top seem to fail fairly often. I am on the third light on the upper right hand side of my trailer. The taillights that are lower last a lot longer, perhaps because they are beneath a ridge in the classic trailer body. I have heard various explanations ranging from moisture penetration to expansion and contraction due to heat from the sun.
has anyone found replacement lights that are more resistant to failure or developed any other strategy to make them last longer?
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09-02-2023, 06:59 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
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old thread, I know.
EEEEK. Bargman 47-54-001 seem to be unobtanium now. while a few vendors list them, bargman doesn't have anything similar anymore, and all the 'respectable' vendors say "out of stock"
I replaced 2 a year ago because elements were out. now 2 more have the same symptom, so I was going to replace the other 3.
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09-02-2023, 07:12 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
old thread, I know.
EEEEK. Bargman 47-54-001 seem to be unobtanium now. while a few vendors list them, bargman doesn't have anything similar anymore, and all the 'respectable' vendors say "out of stock"
I replaced 2 a year ago because elements were out. now 2 more have the same symptom, so I was going to replace the other 3.
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John, here: https://hitchshops.com/i-8516844-bar...-w-reflex.html
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09-02-2023, 08:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
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indeed, thats where I found it, and ordered... hoping they aren't just relying on Bargman to drop ship them.
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09-02-2023, 08:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
indeed, thats where I found it, and ordered... hoping they aren't just relying on Bargman to drop ship them.
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YEOW $31.36 to ship two via UPS? Nah, not buying...
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09-02-2023, 08:34 PM
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same to ship 3. its that, or find some different tail lights to retrofit and I haven't found anything remotely close to these.
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09-02-2023, 09:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
same to ship 3. its that, or find some different tail lights to retrofit and I haven't found anything remotely close to these.
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The Barman are 15.84" x 2.29" - Mounting holes on 14.49" centers
I found these: https://www.bigmachineparts.com/prod...bar-red-36887? which are 17"L x 1.44"W x 1"H
Check out the price!!
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09-02-2023, 10:11 PM
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yeah, I found these, which are 14.5" center to center on the mounting holes, which should match the bargman pretty closely, and are 3-wire, same deal.
https://www.amazon.com/Partsam-Trail.../dp/B013SLZ9FI
I suppose they are cheap enough I could replace all 5.
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09-03-2023, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
same to ship 3. its that, or find some different tail lights to retrofit and I haven't found anything remotely close to these.
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Hi: John in Santa Cruz... Here's a pic of my replacements done by ETI when Reace still did repairs. The long units warped in the hot sun, then leaked into the upper cabinets.
The new smaller units are already starting to resist lighting. One LED at a time!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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09-03-2023, 10:51 AM
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Location: SLO County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: John in Santa Cruz... Here's a pic of my replacements done by ETI when Reace still did repairs. The long units warped in the hot sun, then leaked into the upper cabinets.
The new smaller units are already starting to resist lighting. One LED at a time!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Hey Alf stop bragging! After Reace took care of your taillights he didn't want to do any more. Ask me how I know
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09-03-2023, 12:05 PM
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Once I run through my 3 spare Bargmans I'm going to go with those cheaper ones Donna and John linked to. Thanks you two.
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09-03-2023, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamunique127
Once I run through my 3 spare Bargmans I'm going to go with those cheaper ones Donna and John linked to. Thanks you two.
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I'm thinking of something like Alf's change. As much as I like these long LEDs, especially when I have my bicycle on the back, I'm getting tired of yearly scrapping off the caulk and recaulking. It's going to be never ending no matter WHAT long lights are used. It's the heat....
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12-14-2023, 06:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
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the last pair they had turned out to be the two wire version, parking light only, not turn/stop.
those other wide skinny lights I posted, turned out to not fit very well, the original Bargmann lights had the wire protrusion off center, while these new skinny ones had it centered, putting it in the existing hole meant the new ones stuck out past the end of the trailer by an inch or so, non bueno.
I ended up getting these.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CAFX2FC
nice quality, bright even light, look to be well sealed and completely submersible.
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