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06-10-2017, 06:43 AM
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#101
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Jeromesville, Ohio
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21' pulled with 2014 Silverado Crewcab
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gocamp
But war eagle, any escape owner who does not live near the factory are sent to those same dismal stickies dealers for our warranty work. Still lab rats with the stickie dealer awful one or two star ratings.
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I had my Frig swapped at General RV in Ohio and board replaced in it a year later. They were troopers throughout working with Dometic. Not all are awful. I passed on Camping World due to lousy reviews.
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06-10-2017, 07:06 AM
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#102
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 21 "Blue II" & 2017 Highlander XLE (previously 2010 17B "Blue" & 2008 Tacoma)
Posts: 4,234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arniesea
Well said, Fred! Just curious, where are you two now? How far will Rease need to travel to meet up with you?
Hope you are well,
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Reace is going to have to catch Fred with a lasso!
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"Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance." George Bernard Shaw
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06-10-2017, 08:12 AM
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#103
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Retired from Dallas & Full-Timing, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape as of 01/16/17
Posts: 1,312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arniesea
Well said, Fred! Just curious, where are you two now? How far will Rease need to travel to meet up with you?
Hope you are well,
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We will be visiting The Maritimes for the next few weeks but will watch for ETI's schedule. We plan to meet up as they travel East.
Fred M.
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"Whoever said retirement was overrated...
...never had an Escape"
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06-10-2017, 09:54 AM
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#104
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
Posts: 2,636
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We have made a thousand kilometre drive to Coquitlam several times for repairs or warranty work on our Escape. To me, having the manufacturer work on the trailer was much preferred over some unknown local entity. In two of the three trips to the factory we combined the journey with other holiday plans and it became a trivial matter to stop in at ETI.
It is unfortunate that this issue with the 21' has arisen. But shi# happens sometimes and we need to accept it. My wife's Chevy Equinox has probably had 20 recall notices since we got it. I have not seen the guys from Chev knocking on my door wanting to fix things. Kudos to Reace for taking the initiative to do this fix himself.
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06-10-2017, 11:50 AM
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#105
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Naples, Florida
Trailer: New 21 Escape (not classic)10/16 Sold Lil Snoozy 7/16
Posts: 484
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Water
I recieved the email asking for best way to get in touch but no schedule yet from ETI.
I think a lot of Floridians will be someplace else instead of Home
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06-10-2017, 02:09 PM
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#106
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: no fixed address, California
Trailer: 2017-21' Escape (sold) Casita 17' (sold)
Posts: 1,348
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jennykatz
I recieved the email asking for best way to get in touch but no schedule yet from ETI.
I think a lot of Floridians will be someplace else instead of Home
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I wonder how long the actual mod takes?
I'm guessing wildly at.... 90 minutes?
Just curious....
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06-10-2017, 05:00 PM
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#107
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Trailer: 2013 Casita (Sold) 2017 Escape 21
Posts: 286
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Dog
We will be visiting The Maritimes for the next few weeks but will watch for ETI's schedule. We plan to meet up as they travel East.
Fred M.
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I think we'll be doing the same thing as we'll most likely not be in Texas as he passes through.
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Never underestimate a man with a Degree in Physical Education.
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06-10-2017, 05:02 PM
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#108
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Trailer: 2013 Casita (Sold) 2017 Escape 21
Posts: 286
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles
I wonder how long the actual mod takes?
I'm guessing wildly at.... 90 minutes?
Just curious....
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I've heard that the first time it was done it took about 4 hours. Guessing it will take less time as it is done more often.
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Never underestimate a man with a Degree in Physical Education.
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06-10-2017, 05:26 PM
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#109
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: no fixed address, California
Trailer: 2017-21' Escape (sold) Casita 17' (sold)
Posts: 1,348
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Quote:
Originally Posted by H46Driver
I've heard that the first time it was done it took about 4 hours. Guessing it will take less time as it is done more often.
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I know the cubbies get removed...
I assume the other end - connection- is under the bed?
(By the water heater)
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John
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06-10-2017, 05:32 PM
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#110
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,561
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles
I know the cubbies get removed...
I assume the other end - connection- is under the bed?
(By the water heater)
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John
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A quick check underneath would tell. My guess is that the connection to PEX is in the cubbies, and the firmer PEX is run under the trailer. But, this is just a guess. If he has to replace the lines under foam, that would be a heck of a hassle.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
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06-10-2017, 05:38 PM
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#111
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Baytown, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape - upgraded version
Posts: 2,697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
A quick check underneath would tell. My guess is that the connection to PEX is in the cubbies, and the firmer PEX is run under the trailer. But, this is just a guess. If he has to replace the lines under foam, that would be a heck of a hassle.
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The PEX runs under the step area as you enter the bathroom - it doesn't run under the trailer and the PEX to tubing transition is behind the bath wall next to the cubbies.
The route the water lines are run is what makes the repair take so long. When I first talked to Reese he said the connection was not accessable but after we took a good look at it, the current method of access came to light. It's a costly repair for Reese as the cubbies are destroyed during the repair and have to be replaced.
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06-10-2017, 06:03 PM
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#112
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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You will see some extra space once the cubbies are removed. I added an extra cubby at the bottom for shoes, just a matter of cutting another hole and finishing the edges.
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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06-10-2017, 06:14 PM
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#113
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Area 51, New Mexico
Trailer: pondering.....
Posts: 728
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Don't claim to know anything about plumbing, but when researching trailers this camper looked for visibility and accessibility to all plumbing where splices and tubing angle transitions take place as this seemed like an obvious place for a break later on. One sticky website (as some like to call them) even made a point of saying that all of these points were easily accessible and they designed it that way. Upon looking at that trailer it certainly seemed like they paid close attention to this during its design, although they seem to have dropped the ball in some other important areas of trailer design....did find one other trailer that also made sure all plumbing fittings and tubing angle transitions/splices were easily accessible in their design, and in addition to the use of pex they used all metal plumbing splice/angle fittings/clamps and bypass valves.
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06-10-2017, 06:29 PM
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#114
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Ponoka, Alberta
Trailer: 2016 19 classic "outta sight", jeep rubicon unlimited
Posts: 1,645
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdf-texas
It's a costly repair for Reese as the cubbies are destroyed during the repair and have to be replaced.
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Reace has to pack cubbies in his suitcase?
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06-10-2017, 06:31 PM
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#115
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 21 "Blue II" & 2017 Highlander XLE (previously 2010 17B "Blue" & 2008 Tacoma)
Posts: 4,234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freespirit
Don't claim to know anything about plumbing, but when researching trailers this camper looked for visibility and accessibility to all plumbing where splices and tubing angle transitions take place as this seemed like an obvious place for a break later on. One sticky website (as some like to call them) even made a point of saying that all of these points were easily accessible and they designed it that way. Upon looking at that trailer it certainly seemed like they paid close attention to this during its design, although they seem to have dropped the ball in some other important areas of trailer design....did find one other trailer that also made sure all plumbing fittings and tubing angle transitions/splices were easily accessible in their design, and in addition to the use of pex they used all metal plumbing splice/angle fittings/clamps and bypass valves.
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Sounds like one of those might be just what you are looking for!
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"Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance." George Bernard Shaw
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06-10-2017, 06:37 PM
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#116
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,561
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdf-texas
The PEX runs under the step area as you enter the bathroom - it doesn't run under the trailer and the PEX to tubing transition is behind the bath wall next to the cubbies.
The route the water lines are run is what makes the repair take so long. When I first talked to Reese he said the connection was not accessable but after we took a good look at it, the current method of access came to light. It's a costly repair for Reese as the cubbies are destroyed during the repair and have to be replaced.
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That makes good sense, Tom. I was thinking of my trailer which has the gallery lines running underneath.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
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06-10-2017, 07:02 PM
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#117
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 21 "Blue II" & 2017 Highlander XLE (previously 2010 17B "Blue" & 2008 Tacoma)
Posts: 4,234
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In our 21, it is PEX under the bed and becomes the flexible tubing right as it exits the underbed and enters the bathroom enclosure.
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Eric (and Mary who is in no way responsible for anything stupid I post)
"Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance." George Bernard Shaw
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06-10-2017, 09:00 PM
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#118
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Retired from Dallas & Full-Timing, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape as of 01/16/17
Posts: 1,312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thoer
In our 21, it is PEX under the bed and becomes the flexible tubing right as it exits the underbed and enters the bathroom enclosure.
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Eric,
You got my attention. I checked our 21' and it appears that the tubing enters the bathroom enclosure as pex, but not sure how far before it becomes flexible tubing.
Fred M.
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"Whoever said retirement was overrated...
...never had an Escape"
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06-10-2017, 09:02 PM
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#119
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 21 "Blue II" & 2017 Highlander XLE (previously 2010 17B "Blue" & 2008 Tacoma)
Posts: 4,234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Dog
Eric,
You got my attention. I checked our 21' and it appears that the tubing enters the bathroom enclosure as pex, but not sure how far before it becomes flexible tubing.
Fred M.
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That's interesting Fred - wonder when the change was made?
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Eric (and Mary who is in no way responsible for anything stupid I post)
"Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance." George Bernard Shaw
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06-10-2017, 09:11 PM
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#120
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
I was thinking of my trailer which has the gallery lines running underneath.
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"gallery lines": I always knew that you were an art -sy type guy.
And proved it with your new Escape mods.
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