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10-09-2019, 04:10 PM
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#61
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,193
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Someone's been chewing on my black valve handle!
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10-09-2019, 04:39 PM
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#62
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,052
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Tasty!
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10-09-2019, 04:44 PM
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#63
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Paonia, Colorado
Trailer: 2018 Escape 17B
Posts: 147
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I would blame pack rats for that. Maybe getting one of those high pitched clicking devices that snowmobile outfitters use on their rigs during the summer would help?
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10-09-2019, 07:25 PM
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#64
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Fredericksburg, Texas
Trailer: sold Airstream\Casita -2019 21' Escape
Posts: 190
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Here is what the new models have, tube for the Winterizing process.
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10-10-2019, 09:32 PM
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#65
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 17b/ 2012 Chevy Colorado
Posts: 736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldwave
I have blown out my airlines the last two winters with a Costco 12 volt air pump and have had no issues at all with the air method I followed the procedure exactly
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I followed the same procedure as you did, also with a 12v tire inflator. No water comes out of the spigots but I hear gurgling. Did you hear that as well?
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10-10-2019, 09:39 PM
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#66
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Sounds like you only have enough air pressure to disturb the water in your lines. I sure wouldn't count on that tire inflator to do the job.
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10-10-2019, 09:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yardsale
I followed the same procedure as you did, also with a 12v tire inflator. No water comes out of the spigots but I hear gurgling. Did you hear that as well?
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As Glenn said too small of a compressor won’t work. You need a decent flow rate (CFM) not just pressure. Some good advice has already been given...
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Originally Posted by Ian G
I only use air to winterize both my trailers and have never had any issues. The trick is to use low pressure (40 psi max) and lots of air volume, that is the only way to displace water in the lines. A small 12V compressor will not clear the lines.
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10-10-2019, 10:12 PM
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#68
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
Posts: 3,033
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Winterizing our 21 tomorrow morning . Blow out the lines , pump in some -75 below RV antifreeze , fill the traps and into winter storage it goes !!
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10-11-2019, 06:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 17b/ 2012 Chevy Colorado
Posts: 736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
As Glenn said too small of a compressor won’t work. You need a decent flow rate (CFM) not just pressure. Some good advice has already been given...
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Guess so. The thing is I've used the 12v for the past 4 winters and haven't had problems. Just Lucky? Anyway, neighbor has a tank compressor I can use.
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10-11-2019, 07:46 PM
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#70
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Kent, Ohio
Trailer: 2017 21c Sold, 2023 Bigfoot 25RQ
Posts: 1,393
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I would use the compressor until it was gurgling close all the faucets momentarily to build up some pressure and open again. Did this 3 or 4 times and seems to pretty empty
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10-11-2019, 07:50 PM
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#71
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldwave
I would use the compressor until it was gurgling close all the faucets momentarily to build up some pressure and open again. Did this 3 or 4 times and seems to pretty empty
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That's why I use RV antifreeze. I don't have to hope I've done the job. I can see pink flowing from the taps.
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10-11-2019, 11:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Kent, Ohio
Trailer: 2017 21c Sold, 2023 Bigfoot 25RQ
Posts: 1,393
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Well this my third year with this method and no antifreeze in my water system except for traps
Whatever works for you is fine. I’d rather not put antifreeze in pipes, as inert as it is.
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10-12-2019, 10:31 AM
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#73
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Canmore, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21
Posts: 17
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I winterize my trailer using the air only approach. After draining the fresh water tank, I open all the taps and the toilet and run the water pump for about 20 seconds .. not more. Then I close the taps and toilet ... pressurize the system to not more than 40lbs psi and then I open one tap at a time to clear each line individually.
I believe that approach is detailed in the users manual as well.
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10-12-2019, 10:45 AM
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#74
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
That's why I use RV antifreeze. I don't have to hope I've done the job. I can see pink flowing from the taps.
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Hi: gbaglo... Put some food colouring in the Vodka!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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10-12-2019, 11:56 AM
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#75
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Trailer: 2008 Casita STD
Posts: 29
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When using just 25 psi air pressure at the city water inlet 2-3 times: Does that safely remove all of the water from the 12 volt pump or is something more needed?
(I don't have a water heater or bath)
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10-12-2019, 12:03 PM
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#76
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Not familiar with Scamp ( indicated in your profile ), but ETI says to run the pump for 15-20 seconds after you've drained the fresh water tank and drained and bypassed the water heater.
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10-12-2019, 02:14 PM
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#77
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Trailer: 2013, 17B 'Mini Pearl' and a 2010 Highlander
Posts: 400
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The output side of the water pump has a back flow preventer valve.
That is why when you hook up to city water it doesn’t fill your freshwater tank.
The line from the freshwater tank to the pump can have water in it.
The compressed air will not blow this line out.
I have an inline filter there so I just unscrew it.
A few drops of water fall out but the rest of the water in the line siphons back into the freshwater tank and clears the line.
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10-12-2019, 08:44 PM
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#78
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Trailer: 2006 17b Goucho
Posts: 302
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For my 2006 17b I use air in the fresh water line and antifreeze in the drains.
I remove the outside shower handle and the outside shower water valve stems. One year the handle cracked and a different year a valve stem was loose, hence the removals.
It gets as low as 15 F and this seems to work for my old trailer.
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10-19-2019, 11:24 AM
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#79
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Abbotsford, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 ESCAPE 21
Posts: 5
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RV Antifreeze?
What is the opinion on RV antifreeze, ethanol based, or glycol? The glycol based antifreeze is approximately 4 times the cost, is it any better, safer?
Thanks,
Mike
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10-19-2019, 11:32 AM
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#80
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Riolongo
What is the opinion on RV antifreeze, ethanol based, or glycol? The glycol based antifreeze is approximately 4 times the cost, is it any better, safer?
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Subject has been extensively discussed. Do a search.
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