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Old 01-03-2016, 09:55 AM   #21
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19 or 21???

We have no issues making the bed in our 19. The mattress isn't wedged in tight as some have mentioned. No condensation issues either, but the insulation and thermal window package, and the fact that we leave the Maxx Fan running on low exhaust during the night may be why.

Go with the layout you like. Both have their pluses and minuses.
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:17 AM   #22
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In our previous trailer we had to climb over sideways to get out of bed for middle of the night bathroom trips. We vowed NEVER AGAIN. The Escape 21's bed is at least as big as that trailer's bed and the walls prevent you falling off, so you can lean against them a bit. It makes the bed seem bigger. Having the dinette at the rear with views on 3 sides is priceless. Meals, reading and just sitting enjoying the lake and wildlife from the comfort of this area are awesome. The 21's bed works for us. Try laying on it before assuming you need a queen. It might work for you too.
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:47 AM   #23
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We finally chose the 19 because of two issues: the larger bed, and because the 21 absolutely pushes the envelope for turning/backing/parking in my back yard.

Had to have the queen size bed because we are both really extra-large. The middle of the night climbing-over issue is a true great inconvenience to our creaky old bones but we have come to accept that, even if Ben the wonder dog has not.

No perceptible condensation issues noticed around the bed. Tucking in sheets is hard work. Love my tan blinds. Hate their back-digging spool mechanism. I do keep buffered with a couple nice pillows. I would dearly love to have the extra head room of a 5.0 but that and us passing each other in the aisle’s my only space issue. We have never yet filled up the storage spaces.

The 19’s length has been a very pleasant, issue-free towing and parking size, where ever we have gone.
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Old 01-03-2016, 12:01 PM   #24
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What absolutely wonderful feedback for Reace and Tammy.
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Old 01-03-2016, 01:03 PM   #25
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We have no issues making the bed in our 19. The mattress isn't wedged in tight as some have mentioned. No condensation issues either.
Yes, I think that issue is overstated. I have room for my flip up counter extension to fit between the end of the mattress and the wall. So the mattress is hardly wedged in there.

One of the things that works really well for our use is that I can enter, sit or lounge on "my side" and then exit without any disturbance to my wife in the kitchen etc. The "traffic pattern" works for us.

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Old 01-03-2016, 01:22 PM   #26
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I agree about the traffic pattern. That is huge for me and since Terry almost exclusively uses the table to hang out (as opposed to me who uses the bed) he can come and go when I'm working in the kitchen area and most of his important stuff is right near the table. Also, there really is room to pass each other in the 19 (probably the 21 also). The guy who showed us his trailer way back before we bought ours pointed that out and he was right.

I love that the 19 is small enough to fit into some really tight spaces -- and also that Terry can maneuver it amazingly well -- he can back it up without me (although it makes me nervous) if we're in a tight spot in a gas station or a parking lot where going forward isn't such a good idea.
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Old 01-03-2016, 02:28 PM   #27
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One of the things that works really well for our use is that I can enter, sit or lounge on "my side" and then exit without any disturbance to my wife in the kitchen etc. The "traffic pattern" works for us.
This is a good way of looking at it. All the trailers basically have 3 areas, the bed, the kitchen, and the dinette. With the 19, during the day the bed is right out of the picture, and the kitchen and dinette are easily assessable from the doorway without interference to either area.

This is one thing that will be a compromise even with the 5.0, is that even though the bed is right out of the way, we will have to go through the kitchen to access the dinette. Not ideal, but methinks there is no ideal in any of the models.
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Old 01-03-2016, 02:37 PM   #28
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I wonder if ETI didn't start having their mattresses made just a little smaller. In our 21, we have it down a couple of inches from the front wall and it just covers the platform at the end. And shoved tight against the bathroom wall, it allows a couple of inches to the exterior wall. This really solves the problem of the condensation issues.

As for choosing the correct size trailer, it is an entirely different situation for every buyer. Only the buyers can make that choice and the best way to do this is figure out their wants and needs and compare the trailers side by side. And living in Chilliwack is an advantage over most of us. But I really do wonder what ETI's best selling trailer is. Anyone know? Loren
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Old 01-03-2016, 02:43 PM   #29
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I wonder if ETI didn't start having their mattresses made just a little smaller.
I think I had heard something about this too, Loren.
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Old 01-03-2016, 03:01 PM   #30
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Yes, Loren, there is plenty of room around our bed and I can guess that there now is more room around the 19' beds also.

Ruthe, I meant the sun can wake someone who is not up when the door is opened. The 21' curtain keeps out the sun. Once up, sun is good!

A queen is 60" X 80" which is what the 19' has. There are people such as Myron who need more room in the bed and the 21' bed will just not work. There are some who have medical problems where they do not want a climb-over. (I know there are people buying a 21' because they do not want to do steps to the bathroom in the middle of the night or steps at all, which may also be a medical issue for some, so they are getting a 21' rather than a 5.0.) We did the climb-over in the 19' but glad to get up now without it in the 21' and no disturbing the other person.

One of the advantages of the 19' is that under-dinette storage can be accessed from the door. That is the reason we added another exterior hatch to the 21'.

When the 21' was being designed, there were those who insisted that the dinette should be at the back because most parking spots have the best views out of the back, not looking at the tow vehicle out of the front. True. Then those people bought 5.0s! Well, they get the view out of the back, too!
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