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Old 03-14-2016, 10:19 AM   #31
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In total agreement Jim. Escapes are in my humble opinion, the best fiberglass trailer for the money - on either side of the border.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:26 AM   #32
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There is no doubt that US customers are getting extremely good value with buying an Escape at recent exchange rates. If the exchange rate gets closer to par somewhat in the next while, it will still be a great value compared to any comparable option, at least in my opinion. Sure, US customers may not get as good of a deal as when their dollar was strongest, but nonetheless, they will still be getting a good deal.

For Canadians, I still believe an Escpae to be a good deal for what you get. I have looked at comparable options in the past, and even when our dollar was closer to par, and for what I want in a trailer, there just was no comparison. Costs to Canadians in Canadian dollars really hasn't changed, other than factors of inflation. Canadians on average also earn more for equivalent jobs (which we need to help compensate for our higher costs) especially those in the blue collar and lower to middle class range. While this still does not give us more buying power, it is what it is, and we must make our purchasing decisions based on reality.

Value is determined by what you get for what you pay, NOT for how much you have to pay. Where else can you get the combination of features that Escape offers? Things like the ability to choose from as many standard options that they offer, PLUS to be able to may custom modifications to suit your needs. This alone has huge value. Add to the fact that the quality for the cost is high. Sure there are higher quality components being used in some makes, but you most certainly have to pay more money for them. While other manufacturers may have good quality service, I doubt that any is better than Escape.

Even with the proposed price increase, you still get good value. We do have to wait until all the details of the 2017 models is released to fully determine this, but I don't doubt the improvements will justify it. Part of the increase is no doubt due to the increase of component costs coming out of the US, which for US buyers, means they will be paying closer to par on these components only, and still getting a great deal on Canadian products and services. For Canadians, it kinda sucks, but it is the reality of having to purchase product originating for sale in the US.



I am curious as to what other manufacturer you are now going with, that will give you a better value for something equivalent (or comparable) to the 21?
" I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE QUALITY OF ESCAPE TRAILER'S "
The concept of value is a personnal decision. . Rolls Royse builds a quality vehicle and it may be of great value but I have no intention of buying one.. At the old price and at the higher exchange rate we were at the limit of what we willing to spend on a luxury ( Non Essential) purchase..Most people when purchasing any item have a price they are willing to spend for that item and Escape has surpassed our limit. I am in no way questioning anyone's decision to own or purchase an Escape Trailer. My point was that as Escape raises it's price ,no matter how justified the price increase was and
as the exchange rate gets less favorable for US customers , they will eventually reach a point of price resistance .. We have viewed several Escapes and really like their trailers but there is a limit on what we are willing to spend on something that in our climate is only used 6 months out of a year. I would venture to say that I am not alone in believing that an Escape Trailer has risen to a price point where purchasing one is no longer in our / their future.
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Bottom line, if you can't afford it, it doesn't matter how great the trailer is. However, it's been said before that even with the slight rise recently in the Canadian dollar, U.S. people buying an Escape in 2017 are mostly going to be paying less than those of us who bought two or more years ago. I think what's happened is that people who just started looking at Escapes in the last year and thought they could afford one at that price are being priced out of the market with the present increases.

I am learning just how tricky it is to run a business from this forum. if the Canadian dollar were to go back to its value of two or three years ago, then U.S. buyers would probably be thinking twice. And Escape is probably factoring that into the equation as they determine pricing.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:42 AM   #34
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" I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE QUALITY OF ESCAPE TRAILER'S "
The concept of value is a personnal decision. . Rolls Royse builds a quality vehicle and it may be of great value but I have no intention of buying one.. At the old price and at the higher exchange rate we were at the limit of what we willing to spend on a luxury ( Non Essential) purchase..Most people when purchasing any item have a price they are willing to spend for that item and Escape has surpassed our limit. I am in no way questioning anyone's decision to own or purchase an Escape Trailer. My point was that as Escape raises it's price ,no matter how justified the price increase was and
as the exchange rate gets less favorable for US customers , they will eventually reach a point of price resistance .. We have viewed several Escapes and really like their trailers but there is a limit on what we are willing to spend on something that in our climate is only used 6 months out of a year. I would venture to say that I am not alone in believing that an Escape Trailer has risen to a price point where purchasing one is no longer in our / their future.
Say what? Methinks you misread my query.

I was just curious as to what brand you were considering instead, now that an Escape does not give you the value you are looking for.
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Glenn, I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, but I finished season four too.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:48 AM   #36
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Old 03-14-2016, 11:12 AM   #37
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When my son and I went to Ontario in 2010 to hunt bears I trusted Clay to make all the arrangements and to " let me know what my 1/2 is". I cannot tell you what the exchange rate was or even how much money we spent. I vividly remember the fishing, the other people in camp, the outfitter and his employees. And I remember the shot I made on my bear. Every day I look at the two mounts, his and mine hanging on our great room wall. Probably couldn't afford it then and probably not now, but we did it. We made some memories that will last both of us for the rest of our lives. I look at camping with the Escape the same way. Memories for the rest of our lives. My Dad's best friend from the 1930s died this past weekend. He was 103. My dad however, only made 49. Life can be fleeting. Live every day as if it is your last and someday you will be right.
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Old 03-14-2016, 11:27 AM   #38
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Dave I agree with most of what you say, but if someone has to get into debt to buy an Escape that could lead to trouble. That said, I am someone who often will not buy something I can afford because of that depression era mentality about money that I inherited from my parents of blessed memory. We had the money for the Escape, we took the plunge and are happy we did. But there are less expensive ways to make memories.
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We really like the Escape 21 but not at $30K+ price !!
I paid that for a 19. It's the cost of having it built the way I wanted.

I've owned a few trailers and spent an incredible amount of time fixing and modifying them. I'm willing to spend more to get things right the first time. My Escape19 is imperfect; but it's the best price/performance that meets our needs. If something else works better for you, you ought to go for it,
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Dave I agree with most of what you say, but if someone has to get into debt to buy an Escape that could lead to trouble. That said, I am someone who often will not buy something I can afford because of that depression era mentality about money that I inherited from my parents of blessed memory. We had the money for the Escape, we took the plunge and are happy we did. But there are less expensive ways to make memories.
Hi: Ruthe... Every morning that I wake up...I make memories. I have a photographic memory, it's just that my film card is full! Alf
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