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Old 01-15-2020, 10:03 PM   #1
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Propane pig tail problem

Need to replace the propane pig tail hoses as they are deeply cracked. Need to know if they are 1/4” male mpt fittings or something metric. I purchased my 21 foot escape in Dec 2015.
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Bought this one on Amazon:

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Need to replace the propane pig tail hoses as they are deeply cracked. Need to know if they are 1/4” male mpt fittings or something metric. I purchased my 21 foot escape in Dec 2015.
How much cracking is too much? I replace mine last year and they are already cracked a bit.
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Wonder if coating with something like "303" would help keep the rubber pliable?
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Had to replace mine after 6 years.
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Thanks all for the help. I really appreciate and needed it.

Sounds like replacement needs to be on a four year cycle. I’m on the road so I’ve wrapped them in electrical tape until I can replace. I’ll order and have delivered to friends in San Diego as I head south.

Looks like I got out of Anacortes just in time. Temp is in the low 20’s and over a foot of snow over iced roads. That’s pretty rare for us near the sea.

Stay warm everybody.
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:42 AM   #8
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I have replaced mine twice on a 2016 19. The first time propane would not flow to any appliances, so it must have tripped the flow limiter. Second time I replaced with stainless steel braided hose. We will see how that works out. -30C -22F in Calgary today. I am fondly rememering our two months in Baja Mexico.

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I have replaced mine twice on a 2016 19. The first time propane would not flow to any appliances, so it must have tripped the flow limiter. Second time I replaced with stainless steel braided hose. We will see how that works out. -30C -22F in Calgary today. I am fondly rememering our two months in Baja Mexico.

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Good news, we are up to -29°C now.

It will make today's walk with Jasper a lot nicer.
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Good news, we are up to -29°C now.

It will make today's walk with Jasper a lot nicer.
This is some new use of the words "up to" that I'm not familiar with.

66F and rainy here....
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This is some new use of the words "up to" that I'm not familiar with.

66F and rainy here....
Well, it was colder.

Sorry about the rain, but the temps are certainly warm.
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I'm sorry but -20F is cold anywhere....too cold.
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I'm sorry but -20F is cold anywhere....too cold.
That the temperature we break out the long Johns.
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Need to replace the propane pig tail hoses as they are deeply cracked. Need to know if they are 1/4” male mpt fittings or something metric. I purchased my 21 foot escape in Dec 2015.
I don't think you'll find a metric thread on any propane fitting, anywhere in North America (even in Canada, where we use the same fittings as in the U.S.)
eTrailer: Common Types of Propane Fittings Used on RVs

The port in the regulator is 1/4" NPT female, so a pigtail to go directly into it is 1/4" NPT male, like the ones that Rossue linked. Often, there is an adapter screwed into that port, so when you replace the hose you can leave that pipe thread connected, and only unscrew the hose with a 1/4" inverted flare end. The adapter for the flare fitting is nice because flare fittings don't use any kind of thread sealant, so they are more convenient to remove and reinstall than pipe threads; it also minimizes the risk of damaging the soft aluminum threads.

Even if your regulator doesn't currently have the adapters in it (so the pigtails with pipe threads screw into it directly) you can put them in when you replace the pigtails, so it will be easier next time. Most new auto-changeover regulators come with adapters in the ports.

Whatever you have on the regulator end, the tank end needs to be the current QCC-1 type (big plastic knob). These tank-end fittings have a protective "excess flow valve" in them, which is rated for a specific maximum flow rate and colour-coded. Escape uses the green rating (rather than black, which doesn't allow as much flow).
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Today in downtown Juneau and cross channel town of Douglas, its 0F - +5F with winds gusting to 100 mph. Now that's cold!

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get quality pigtails from a US maker, not the cheapest off brand ones you find on Amazon or fleabay, and they'll last longer.
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I replaced mine a few years back but next time I think I will look for the stainless steel braided hose.
For my Alberta colleagues as well as any who are suffering through this cold snap, I bring you a Zen moment.... Step outside, face to the light breeze. Stand there feeling your fingers and legs go numb and your cheeks tingle. Breathe in very deep and slowly thru your nostrils. As you feel the hairs in your nose pull when they freeze and you eye tears from the icy cold, ask yourself.... do you miss the sound of a mosquito droning in your ear?
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It was 73 degrees here today with 100% humidity; unseasonably warm and very uncomfortable. Any effort at all and you were soaked in sweat. It needs to cool off. A little.

Where does one find the stainless steel hose? Has anyone replaced the hose leading from the propane regulator down to the pipe beneath the trailer?

Despite occasional snow in Anacortes I really like that area. If my house is ever flattened by a hurricane, Sedro-Woolley here I come.
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It was 73 degrees here today with 100% humidity; unseasonably warm and very uncomfortable. Any effort at all and you were soaked in sweat. It needs to cool off. A little.

Where does one find the stainless steel hose? Has anyone replaced the hose leading from the propane regulator down to the pipe beneath the trailer?

Despite occasional snow in Anacortes I really like that area. If my house is ever flattened by a hurricane, Sedro-Woolley here I come.
Mike Oak Harbor close by , snowing the last couple of days . Pat
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It was 73 degrees here today with 100% humidity; unseasonably warm and very uncomfortable. Any effort at all and you were soaked in sweat. It needs to cool off. A little.

Where does one find the stainless steel hose? Has anyone replaced the hose leading from the propane regulator down to the pipe beneath the trailer?

Despite occasional snow in Anacortes I really like that area. If my house is ever flattened by a hurricane, Sedro-Woolley here I come.
On our 19, my regulator started to give me uneven pressures. Even with full tanks I’d get fluctuations in our stove burner flame. The hoses were also cracked where they were bent sharply. I bought a new Marshall regulator, new pig tails and a new hose from the regulator
to the copper line. Whole works was under $100 if I remember right. Our 2013 21 ft
Escape had new hoses and regulator when we bought it in 2017. I’ll be closely examining the whole setup in the spring again but they looked good yet last fall. I think storing inside a building helps. I picked up regular gas leak detection soap bottle, it’s nice to use with the dauber and bubbles up nicely if there’s a leak. Always check.
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