Real Tongue Weights on a 21'

[John in Santa Cruz]

Originally Posted by MrLynn

My son has a passel of kids, so just managed to score a 2018 Transit 350 2-wheel drive. He wants to get a camper trailer, but is limited to 3,500 lbs towing capacity.

Best passenger vans for towing are the GMC/Chev Savanna/Express vans, with 9,000 lbs capability; son ruled them out because they lack headrests and similar amenities.

FWIW, we have a 2013 Ford Expedition EL, which holds a lot of grandkids, or a lot of gear (with seats down), and can tow up to 8,500 lbs. It's basically an F150 with an SUV body. The new Expeditions are very different-looking (uglier in my view), but I presume similar in capability.

I suspect they are better in capability. THey now all use the 3.5 ecoboost motor, and since 2018 the 10 speed automatic, and somewhere in there they got fully IRS suspension. more payload, more horses and torques, and a way nice 10 speed electronic automatic transmission. and a nicer more modern dashboard computer

[MyronL]

I'm assuming like many of us in the lower 48 when it comes to the metric system there's a blind spot. (Engineers and other techies excluded, of course).
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