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Old 07-25-2018, 10:36 AM   #61
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We just got our 21 5.0 TA and love our power awning and not hitting our heads on the rails on the old system is nice as well
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:11 AM   #62
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Hi Matt - And this is why Escapes are so nice as not "one size fits all". I posted this in another thread but I'll mention it here, I queried ETI about the screen room (now that they're going back to the manual awning) and was told they are in talks with Carefree. They hope they'll be able to announce something by the Fall. So, we're hopeful we'll be getting one.

So happy you're enjoying your new trailer and, perhaps, we'll meet at one of the California get-togethers!
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:12 AM   #63
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I have both frameless windows and power awning. One of the reasons I wanted the new 5.0. I love the look. Had the unit since March and have camped quite a bit. The only thing I didínt care for is that I cannot put out the awning the full 8 ft. In the rain. But alas I plan to winter south, so rain wonít be an issue.
One thing I noticed was that surveys found that people use the power awning 80% more. I am handicapped as well and I can now put it out by myself. Big plus for me.
As for the windows really like them so far. I thought I would put some silicone lubricant around the seals and hope for the best. I also see that my windows have Lippert industries on them who just bought hehr windows. Maybe they made some changes on the windows too.
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:24 AM   #64
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Awning & windows

We are on a three week camping in our one year-old 17B through the south west and Rockies in the US. The frameless windows have worked really well and helped us with insulation from the heat. And the electric awning thatís totally great; the automatic feature to roll itself up in the wind have been great too. Iíve got a suspicion that the awnings donít work as well on the larger models; do you guys think that so? I sure hope they keep working as they have!
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:52 AM   #65
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Love the awning and windows. Both are working perfectly on our 2017 5.0 TA. I don’t know which plant made the frameless windows but so far so good.
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Old 07-25-2018, 12:25 PM   #66
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I was just at the showroom in Chilliwack and asked for clarity about the problems with the awning and frameless windows.
We have a 5.0 TA with both features (and I like them).
Frameless windows: In hot weather people tend to crank the windows too hard (closed). When it cools down and the windows are opened the gasket can become detached from the frame. Resolution: Close windows just until the glass contacts the gasket.
Awning: 1) The awning can collapse if it gets filled with rain. Open the awning about 1/2 the way. The supports will be in a position to help the water run off the awning. 2) Doesn't always close in windy conditions. Same as above.
We always close the awning when we are not around the trailer and at night.

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Old 07-25-2018, 12:37 PM   #67
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yup i always used to close my crank awning when i left the camp site and mostly at night if the weather wasn't perfect so the electric is better for me easy to bring it in at night or when i leave. i often leave it partially out so i can put chairs under at night. my bathroom window has failed so i am going up to Escape to have it changed out or they said they could have a new one sent to a local repair place and have it changed out. For me its easier just to drive up.
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:02 PM   #68
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I really like my frameless Thermo windows and power awning. Both have worked well last summer and this in extended usage. I understand the “limbo” considering ETI forthcoming change, but based on my experience I’m pleased and would order both again.
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:15 PM   #69
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We have both the electric awning and frameless windows. I suggest you do what we are doing...go camping!
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Old 07-25-2018, 03:30 PM   #70
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Brand spankin new to these forums and thanks for the good questions. Going in for a sit down and prepare a build sheet on a 21 this coming Monday. Pretty sure I'm going with the no arms awning and the frameless windows - love the look. Just my preference. Cheers.
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Old 07-25-2018, 03:47 PM   #71
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Brand spankin new to these forums and thanks for the good questions. Going in for a sit down and prepare a build sheet on a 21 this coming Monday. Pretty sure I'm going with the no arms awning and the frameless windows - love the look. Just my preference. Cheers.
You're a speedy person. It took me 5 months to complete my build sheet... and a giant bottle of Tums.
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Old 07-25-2018, 03:55 PM   #72
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You're a speedy person. It took me 5 months to complete my build sheet... and a giant bottle of Tums.
OMG - to funny D!

Hopefully, no regrets and a few Tums left over - cheers!
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Old 07-25-2018, 04:26 PM   #73
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I've not heard about the Indiana frameless windows so I can't comment there.
But I'm having second thoughts about the frameless windows I have because they open such a little way they don't allow much cross ventilation.

I opted against the power awning, not for cost saving but after watching the videos I knew it wasn't for me. Not adjustable slope and no arms to the ground. I don't think a lot of the manual either though. Too flimsy and both of the lightweight plastic locking levers on the arms broke off early on. They sent me replacements but that's a daunting job I haven't faced yet. I really wish they had kept the old, sturdy A&E awning.

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Old 07-25-2018, 04:30 PM   #74
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Nothing has broken on my 2008 Carefree Fiesta awning.
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Old 07-25-2018, 08:01 PM   #75
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For slider windows you can always install

Airxcel | Maxxair | Window/Maxx

I have had frameless in a MH and they vibrated open even when you really cranked them down and the screen is a PITA to put in them. I would never have frameless again. The present SOB I ordered with dual pane sliders.

I have 2 electric awnings and wished I had manuals. After some practice it takes at most 5 minutes to raise one or lower it. I really think I could do do in 3 minutes at most.

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Old 07-25-2018, 08:26 PM   #76
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For slider windows you can always install

Airxcel | Maxxair | Window/Maxx

I have had frameless in a MH and they vibrated open even when you really cranked them down and the screen is a PITA to put in them. I would never have frameless again. The present SOB I ordered with dual pane sliders.

I have 2 electric awnings and wished I had manuals. After some practice it takes at most 5 minutes to raise one or lower it. I really think I could do do in 3 minutes at most.

This is IMO

Another SOB owner wanting an Escape.
The WindowMaxx hasn't been available for a number of years now from Airxcel. They're VERY popular with the Casita crowd and anytime someone finds a small stash, they're sold almost immediately at a tidy profit too.


Even if they were available, I don't want anything that blocks any of the view out my windows. YMMV
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:12 PM   #77
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Is there a link to the supplier for the screen room, or was that something purchased through ETI?
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We added to our build list when we purchased from Escape. They installed snaps on our trailer also for the bottom skirt that comes with the awning. You would have to check with Escape to see if they still offer the screen room.
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With regard to whether ETI offers the screen room, I didn't ask when I made the change (should have); however, one wonders whether they'll offer it now that they're going back to the Carefree awning.
I just received an email from Tammy. She indicated they will be ordering in new screen rooms (that work with the Carefree Fiesta manual awning) later this year. They will be on the website under Options.
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:18 PM   #78
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Yep, that's what she told me a few days ago. Although, if it's not available in time for our pickup in September, ETI may not be able to order the snaps that hold it to the trailer. Oh well. Unfortunately, I'm one of those people that mosquitoes, biting flies, etc., just LOVE so the screen room is very important to me.
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Old 07-26-2018, 12:42 AM   #79
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I picked mine up yesterday with frameless windows and automatic awning. I like my windows and my awning I'm just very careful not to tighten the windows too much. I also put the awning in at night and when I'm away. I at an awning I had to crank and stake and watch I'm good with the automatic..

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