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12-15-2013, 12:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Planned modifications to BlackJack….
Made or rather performed my first modification to Blackjack, replaced the incandescent bulb in the stove overhead with a led wedge bulb I had on hand. Now I'm 100% LED in and out.
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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12-15-2013, 12:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
Posts: 1,868
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It's about time Jim BlackJack has been in your possession for more than 48 hours. What's with the 'foot dragging'? :
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12-15-2013, 12:28 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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We got about 6" of the white stuff yesterday, kept me from going camping.
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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12-15-2013, 12:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5TA
Posts: 405
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Now we know you are okay...!
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12-15-2013, 12:30 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,051
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Shoot, I'm still waiting to hear about the two unplanned changes that ETI did to your trailer Jim! I may want to add them to my build sheet
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12-15-2013, 12:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Emerson, Manitoba
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0TA, 2022 F150 2.7EB
Posts: 1,848
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Yes come on Jim tell us what the two surprises are.
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12-15-2013, 02:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Hi: cpaharley2008... AND?...
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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12-15-2013, 09:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Battle Ground, Washington
Trailer: 2001 Bigfoot 21RB/ 73Boler/Trillium 5500
Posts: 178
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How do you like the big Blackjack after owning a 19ft?
Chuck
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12-16-2013, 06:57 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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It's amazing what 8" in width and 16" in length can do. It feels so much more spacious and I love the "U" shaped dinette in the rear with the panorama view. The counter and storage space is a lot more than what these 8x16" open up. It is just a better and more efficient layout, IMHO. It is nice being able to sit on the bed corner and put your shoes on, something the 19' did not allow one to do.
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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12-16-2013, 07:36 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tucson, AZ, Arizona
Trailer: gone, 19 and 21 & 17B with 5.0 now. gone
Posts: 790
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size of 21
Jim the 8" width increase is of course a inside measurement as the outside is 4" wider. Years ago looking at RV's we always told sales people that we wanted one
40' long inside and 20' long outside to keep both of us happy.
I believe our 21 is just about finished and ready to go, I have registered for the Bluebonnet Rally, (thanks Donna D. for the heads up).
Jack of Tucson
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12-16-2013, 09:04 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,552
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
It's amazing what 8" in width
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It is only 4" winder than the 19 I believe.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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12-16-2013, 11:33 AM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Box Elder, South Dakota
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
It is only 4" winder than the 19 I believe.
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Back in the beginning of the 21' mold build Reese gave the changes from 19' to 21' body.
http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f2...te-1883-3.html
Post #30 says
"Progress on the 21' plug. Tammy and I went up to Vernon to see the progress and go over the cosmetic changes now that the shape is there. You can see in the photo where the 19' has now been lengthened 4" in the rear, 16" in front of the door and 4" wider. At this stage, the flat window sections need to be altered, fridge and bath vent moved and a nice finish applied to get ready for the top mold. "
So, the 21' body is 20" longer and 4" wider than the 19'.
Bill
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12-16-2013, 01:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,552
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keager
So, the 21' body is 20" longer and 4" wider than the 19'.
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Just looked at the specs on their website, and confirmed this.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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12-16-2013, 01:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
Posts: 2,636
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keager
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So, the 21' body is 20" longer and 4" wider than the 19'.
Bill
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I would only have to go with a wider trailer if I was about 6" taller. With my 6'-2.5" height, the bed in the 19' is still long enough for me to stretch out fine.
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12-16-2013, 01:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,552
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ice-breaker
I would only have to go with a wider trailer if I was about 6" taller. With my 6'-2.5" height, the bed in the 19' is still long enough for me to stretch out fine.
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I am only 6'-0", and ours fits me, my wife, and all my girlfriends just fine.
Total girlfriend count currently stands at zero.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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12-16-2013, 02:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Asheville, North Carolina
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 895
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Moving from my 8'x8' tent, the 19'Escape is going to feel like a stadium!
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Thanks to the interstate highway system, it is now possible to travel across the country from coast to coast without seeing anything - Charles Kuralt
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12-16-2013, 02:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,552
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Like Jim alluded to though, the one thing the 21 has, is definitely a feeling of being way bigger. Moving the bathroom to the front really helps with this.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
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12-16-2013, 02:59 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
Trailer: 21' Escape
Posts: 87
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Well, there will at least be two 21's there. I guess we can compare.
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12-16-2013, 05:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Houston, Texas
Trailer: 2014 21ft Escape
Posts: 115
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We get our 21 Escape in March and will be at Bluebonnet also.
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12-16-2013, 11:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Battle Ground, Washington
Trailer: 2001 Bigfoot 21RB/ 73Boler/Trillium 5500
Posts: 178
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Jack hope you enjoy your new 21ft Escape, are you going to pick it up at the factory.
Chuck
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