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07-28-2021, 08:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
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There’s a guy who could make some serious money as a mobile RV Tech in my opinion. He shepherded several jobs for us and they were all very well done. And a good person to explain what you were looking at. He could answer questions before you asked them. On the solar controller he told me “now listen 90% is a hundred percent and you’ll only occasionally be present to see 100 percent once in a while. I took him at his word and sure enough have only seen 100% a few times by 90% most every day. When a sleeve of solo cups bounced around and flipped.a d I p switch in the cupboard and I had to call the controller folks I told him about it the next spring. “Beer cups got you eh?”
Iowa Dave
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07-28-2021, 09:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Des Plaines, Illinois
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19 (TV: 2007 Chevy Tahoe)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kathytony1985
We're going to make a trip next year to the Midwest. We have a daughter and grandkids in New Ulm, MN. Always wanted to check out the SPAM museum. Seen some You Tube videos. Looks like fun!
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I've been to the Spam Museum, Austin, MN, several times and usually stop in when traveling in that direction. But, for me, Austin, MN is even more famous for a place called "Piggy Blues", on the main street through "downtown". Great pulled pork and something called "Deep Fried Creamed Corn". Great stuff!
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07-28-2021, 09:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
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In the heyday of Midwestern meat packing, there were a number of canned meat products. They advertised regularly on our local stations. SPAM. BIF, TREET, MOR. to name a few without research.
Armour, Swift, Cudahy, Hormel, John Morrell, and of course my home town’s biggest processing plant in the world at one time Wilson’s. While “The Jungle” was not required reading when I went to school. many of my classmates parents and grandkids parents lived it.
Iowa Dave
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07-28-2021, 10:25 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
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Nigel, also known as Mini Reace. At least in the past.
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07-29-2021, 01:52 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 84
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Originally Posted by oldwave
Oliver also has a service department, but the price is high
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As compared to.....
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07-29-2021, 02:01 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Kent, Ohio
Trailer: 2017 21c Sold, 2023 Bigfoot 25RQ
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Originally Posted by scubarx
As compared to.....
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Escapes naturally.
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07-29-2021, 09:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Emerson, Manitoba
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Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
There’s a guy who could make some serious money as a mobile RV Tech in my opinion. He shepherded several jobs for us and they were all very well done. And a good person to explain what you were looking at. He could answer questions before you asked them. On the solar controller he told me “now listen 90% is a hundred percent and you’ll only occasionally be present to see 100 percent once in a while. I took him at his word and sure enough have only seen 100% a few times by 90% most every day. When a sleeve of solo cups bounced around and flipped.a d I p switch in the cupboard and I had to call the controller folks I told him about it the next spring. “Beer cups got you eh?”
Iowa Dave
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Nigel was great for us when we took our old single axle 5.0 in for a few things in 2017 he went through all he'd done on pickup including putting a fuse on the battery, something they didn't do in 2007, and at no charge!
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We are all travellers in the wilderness of this world, and the best we can find in our travels is an honest friend.
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08-04-2021, 10:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Blacksburg, Virginia
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0TA
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I've been to Escape several times since my 5.0 purchase in 2017....mainly just stopped by to say hi to the folks I knew there.......they were happy to fix a couple lights and some minor stuff....out of warranty however, they looked pretty busy with new stuff......I am guessing that if they did do work
It would get pretty expensive fast....just my .02 worth.
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08-04-2021, 11:51 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Alcoa, Tennessee
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug2000
I doubt the Winnebago factory is doing post build mods, they leave that up to the dealers.
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I agree with everything you said. I only note that Escape is the dealer.
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08-04-2021, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Blacksburg, Virginia
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He is right about solar.....most dealerships install a PWM type controller the MPPT controller will give you 30% more power.....the PWM controller is cheaper though.....so I'll take a wild guess that's why they're used by dealers. Anyway.....
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08-05-2021, 11:11 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldwave
Escapes naturally.
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What was your process to make the comparison?
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08-06-2021, 01:33 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scubarx
What was your process to make the comparison?
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Thinking, I would imagine. [emoji6]
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08-06-2021, 01:55 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Kent, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scubarx
What was your process to make the comparison?
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The comment was about the costs of the trailers. Which is published information.
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08-06-2021, 08:27 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Lanesboro, MN, between Whalan and Fountain, Minnesota
Trailer: 2016 Bigfoot 25RQ - (2018 Escape 5.0 sold)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by algonquin50
He is right about solar.....most dealerships install a PWM type controller the MPPT controller will give you 30% more power.....the PWM controller is cheaper though.....so I'll take a wild guess that's why they're used by dealers. Anyway.....
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MPPT work slightly better in cold weather (<30F, for perhaps 5%) and can handle higher voltage panels, but 30%, no way. I saw no difference when I switched to a Victron MPPT controller, but the Victron gives history to better monitor the system. The GoPower is just a cheap controller, but for charging is every bit as fast as our Victron.
Enjoy,
Perry
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08-06-2021, 08:52 AM
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If panel voltage is 18V and the charge voltage is at 14V, the excess voltage is wasted with the PWM controller, and an MPPT controller effectively uses the full input voltage, the added benefit is 18/14, or 1.286, thus an approximate 29% improvement. Of course, this number would decrease with higher charge voltages.
To be fair if we looked at the reduction in effectiveness, rather that the increase, it would be 14/18, or 0.778, or 22% reduction. Again, this number would improve at a higher charge voltage.
All this said in the majority of circumstances the PWM will still charge the batteries full, and that is what really matters. Plus, absolute accuracy of course is not in my calculations.
I know, I know, my knowledge of stuff is under question these days, but I am okay with that. My wife sometimes has the same question. [emoji16]
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08-08-2021, 12:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Blacksburg, Virginia
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I think many of these solar questions depend on how you camp...I often camp for 6 weeks in remote areas...so solar efficiency is very important to me...I even soldered all my connections and got a little more pwr.....if you do three day trips, remember your batteries ate already fully charged when you arrive...so your few amps from solar is fine.
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08-08-2021, 01:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
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Better luck next time!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
There’s a guy who could make some serious money as a mobile RV Tech in my opinion. He shepherded several jobs for us and they were all very well done. And a good person to explain what you were looking at. He could answer questions before you asked them. On the solar controller he told me “now listen 90% is a hundred percent and you’ll only occasionally be present to see 100 percent once in a while. I took him at his word and sure enough have only seen 100% a few times by 90% most every day. When a sleeve of solo cups bounced around and flipped.a d I p switch in the cupboard and I had to call the controller folks I told him about it the next spring. “Beer cups got you eh?”
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Hi: Iowa Dave... Our local "Tims" used to have an anual contest called Roll up the wim to rin!!! Some cups were printed with "Win a bagel". I always wanted to go in and ask for my "Winnabago" but I only got cups that said "Please try again"!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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08-08-2021, 02:08 PM
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#78
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Wenatchee, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19'
Posts: 179
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerMan
I've seen this expression several times and now I just gotta ask. What is meant by 'The Escape Kool Aid'?
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I believe the "Escape Kool-Aid" is a take on "The Electric Kool-Aid Test," by Tom Wolfe, 1968.
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08-08-2021, 02:20 PM
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#79
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Trailer: 2020 Escape 17B "Voyager"
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08-08-2021, 03:35 PM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Trailer: 2019 Escape 19 "Sheep"; 2003 Toyota Tundra "Shep"; 2017 Aussie "Cody"
Posts: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
My not so steel trap fast mind had to flip through a few months back to Fourth of July weekend in 2019 when I had conversation with a nice lady in the parking lot of the HyVee grocery store. She was towing a new Scamp. She told me she was headed to Minnesota to camp and then to the Scamp factory to have an awning and an air conditioner installed. She told me she bought without and tried the camper without and decided she’d like these things added. Scamp does aftermarket work on their trailers.
In addition On the Casita website there is a protocol for owners bringing their trailers in for service that includes removing personal gear, scheduling etc.
So while Winnebago depends on dealers one of which is located a mile from the factory and has a long standing relationship with the factory, cursory investigation reveals that Scamp and Casita both offer Service after the Sale. And Escape used to in the Reace and Tammy days.
Iowa Dave
https://www.scamptrailers.com/
https://casitatraveltrailers.com/
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One of the reasons I bought Escape and not Scamp was the nearby after purchase service. (I live in the Puget Sound area, about two hours from Chilliwack.) I had no idea that control was about to transfer to a private equity fund. I would still have bought my Escape, but at least I could have anticipated the end of the excellent consumer service provided by Reece and Tammy!
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