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Old 02-22-2021, 03:46 PM   #41
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Now Iíve said IT. Fire away

Iíve not said much on this yet, but here goes:

1. I too agree first right of purchase or refusal should be by deposit date.

2. I agree ETI can build a little faster with some standardization and inventory control for appliances that goes with this approach.

3. If there is really enough room in the schedule for 60 extra units, that is something like 6-7 weeks of production according to Karl. So why not move configuration up to 6 months out, and move the build dates for everyone in the summer of 2021 up 6 weeks.

4. Karl needs to make the equity company money, and this is one way he can do it and still have buyers in line for sales. Itís not the best plan for those of us on hold for a long time, especially expecting customizations that are now rejected due to the backlog. Iím sure Karl and the owners are enjoying the proceeds. They should make money to stay in business, but I think this process could be done more equitably.

5. They need to get the post option list out fast. Should have produced it before this first trailer.

6. I really doubt they will build an inventory trailer I want. I imagine I am in line for the long haul. Iím sure Iíll no longer get some of the customizations I want. I just hope my Late February 2022 date gets me a 2021 trailer before the price increase. I doubt Iíll spend much time looking at the inventory builds. The same applies to 2nd gen used E19ís.

One of the reasons I bought an Escape is because I want what I want at this point in my RV life. Otherwise, I could spend a lot less.
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Old 02-22-2021, 06:45 PM   #42
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No, you need to have placed a deposit in order to claim one of the inventory units.
Thanks Steve. A bit less confusing. Still seems bizarre to produce and put out "inventory" units before filling back orders. Maybe it's their way of "discouraging" personalization options, but considering that is one of the reasons for their success, it's very odd indeed.
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They have to keep employees busy. Building inventory carries little risk, since they don't have to deliver on a certain date. I'm sure protests would be much louder if customers were required to sit in Sumas awaiting delivery.
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Old 02-22-2021, 07:11 PM   #44
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I totally agree.
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Old 02-22-2021, 08:05 PM   #45
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They have to keep employees busy. Building inventory carries little risk, since they don't have to deliver on a certain date. I'm sure protests would be much louder if customers were required to sit in Sumas awaiting delivery.
Are you implying that their employees are not busy enough filling backlogged orders? What an odd comment. I imagine people in line with year long waits might disagree with you.
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Are you implying that their employees are not busy enough filling backlogged orders? What an odd comment. I imagine people in line with year long waits might disagree with you.

Not all employees have all the skill sets necessary to build a trailer. Not sure you want a fibreglass guy building your custom cabinet.
There is also limited space for the processes involved.
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Old 02-22-2021, 09:03 PM   #47
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As expected the trailer was sold in less than 30 seconds.
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Old 02-22-2021, 10:06 PM   #48
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As expected the trailer was sold in less than 30 seconds.
Campground reservation system strikes quickly. Wonder how many people were trying to get to that trailer that was gone in 30 seconds or less.
I like the lottery system they came up with for the 23 better. Take a list of names that will buy it and have employee of the week draw the winner out of an Escape hat.
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Old 02-23-2021, 01:26 AM   #49
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Not all employees have all the skill sets necessary to build a trailer. Not sure you want a fibreglass guy building your custom cabinet.
There is also limited space for the processes involved.
Well, as neither you or I have any skin in the game, nor are we trailer building experts, we really don't know do we? Others who do have something to gain/lose with this new operating procedure will guide the thread I'm sure
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Well, as neither you or I have any skin in the game, nor are we trailer building experts, we really don't know do we? Others who do have something to gain/lose with this new operating procedure will guide the thread I'm sure

I was about to say the same thing.
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Old 02-23-2021, 07:47 AM   #51
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so who was the lottery winner? Congratulations
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Old 02-23-2021, 08:11 AM   #52
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so who was the lottery winner? Congratulations
ETI posted the winning name in their Facebook page shortly after the sale: Andy and Jocelyne.

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Old 02-23-2021, 08:54 AM   #53
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At some point soon ETI will have to ramp things up to get to 60 units before August. Iím sure they are working on it.
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Old 02-23-2021, 09:01 AM   #54
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At some point soon ETI will have to ramp things up to get to 60 units before August. Iím sure they are working on it.
Agree. I imagine theyíre shaking out this inventory sale process so going carefully to start, as well as growing the build capacity. Maybe 2-3/week starting in March? They may continue to sell inventory trailers into August even though production is then directed to customer orders.
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Agree. I imagine theyíre shaking out this inventory sale process so going carefully to start, as well as growing the build capacity. Maybe 2-3/week starting in March? They may continue to sell inventory trailers into August even though production is then directed to customer orders.
At one point Karl said they hoped to get up to around 5/week...
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Hi: All... This whole thread makes me think about "Going to see a man about a dog" Alf
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Old 02-26-2021, 11:14 AM   #57
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Cost of post-production options

It appears that the cost of post-production options are significantly higher than the costs for the same items on an original build.
For example -
- Foot Flush Toilet goes from $48.00 to $90 US
- Toilet Shut Off Valve goes from $24.00 to $90 US
- Removable Power Cord goes from $160 to $400 US
- Storage Box Front of Trailer $560 to $790 US

Something to be aware of before clicking that "Buy" button.

Original build options cost -
https://escapetrailer.com/the-escape...uote-detailed/
Post-production options costs -
https://f.hubspotusercontent40.net/h...%20Options.jpg
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Great 1st post there, Penny and welcome to the group.......
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:07 PM   #59
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It appears that the cost of post-production options are significantly higher than the costs for the same items on an original build.
For example -
- Foot Flush Toilet goes from $48.00 to $90 US
- Toilet Shut Off Valve goes from $24.00 to $90 US
- Removable Power Cord goes from $160 to $400 US
- Storage Box Front of Trailer $560 to $790 US

Something to be aware of before clicking that "Buy" button.

Original build options cost -
https://escapetrailer.com/the-escape...uote-detailed/
Post-production options costs -
https://f.hubspotusercontent40.net/h...%20Options.jpg

wow! I can see some of these things will require more labor after the build. I don't understand why spray foam on a 19 would go from $640-$800.
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wow! I can see some of these things will require more labor after the build. I don't understand why spray foam on a 19 would go from $640-$800.

I expect any after delivery options require interruption of their manufacturing process.
Of course, they could build another plant and hire people for such. While they are are it, they could build a campground for employees to live in the Escape trailers they are evaluating.
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