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01-26-2022, 10:04 PM
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#21
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: CenTex, Texas
Trailer: 2022 E19
Posts: 642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sofmerc
Now that I have calmed down... I'll probably pay up, shut up and hook up..lol.. In the big scheme of things, not worth losing sleep over.. Oh well
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+1
These days, I'm just glad I can lock in a delivery price rather quickly..
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01-26-2022, 10:09 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YakRV
So, does anyone have any advice on whether we should attempt towing from Sumas, or should we stick with Bozeman?
Thanks.
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Highways are engineered to drive on. You should have no problem towing from Sumas.
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01-26-2022, 10:10 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: CenTex, Texas
Trailer: 2022 E19
Posts: 642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Craiger
..............7% increase, that's what inflation is running right now.
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" Officially"...................Ha!
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01-26-2022, 10:13 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Cold Spring, Kentucky
Trailer: 2022 21C + 2021 F-150 PowerBoost 4x4
Posts: 572
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Highways are engineered to drive on. You should have no problem towing from Sumas.
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LOL. What are the grades like out that way, though - from the perspective of someone who has just hitched a trailer for the first time, and might be nervous enough on a nicely engineered flat highway?
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01-26-2022, 11:28 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,215
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YakRV
Our plan has been for receiving delivery in Bozeman to save the 800 miles/13 hours of travel each way between there and Sumas. We also chose Bozeman to avoid steep grades we fear we’d be towing through from Sumas heading back to the Midwest.
Upon seeing the new delivery prices, however, we’re now considering a Sumas pickup. With that in mind, is the route from Sumas heading back east too much for newbies? We don’t have a tow vehicle yet, but we’re shopping for a new F-150 so we should have plenty of towing capability. What we don’t have is any experience - at all.
So, does anyone have any advice on whether we should attempt towing from Sumas, or should we stick with Bozeman?
Thanks.
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Seems like most people engaging deliveries do so as they don't have the time to pick up the trailer in Sumas. If that is not a problem then know this: the Escape trailer is one of the easiest trailers to tow. We started with a used 17B we picked up 1000 miles from home and had no issues. The 21 being a tandem axle that we also own now is even better.
So if you have the time go for it! You could practice some with a utility trailer from a rental yard, yet remember- " If they can do it, you can too!".
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01-26-2022, 11:34 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Better to be somewhat nervous than arrogantly oblivious.
Anticipate.
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01-26-2022, 11:42 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Cold Spring, Kentucky
Trailer: 2022 21C + 2021 F-150 PowerBoost 4x4
Posts: 572
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
So if you have the time go for it! You could practice some with a utility trailer from a rental yard, yet remember- " If they can do it, you can too!".
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Thank you for the encouraging words, Rossue. We sure appreciate it.
We were already planning a two week vacation to Bozeman for the delivery along with stays at Yellowstone NP and Grand Teton NP. We might still try to do that with a few extra days for the run to Sumas, or we could pivot to pick up in Sumas and visit the North Cascades NP instead. Decisions, decisions.
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01-26-2022, 11:44 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Cold Spring, Kentucky
Trailer: 2022 21C + 2021 F-150 PowerBoost 4x4
Posts: 572
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Better to be somewhat nervous than arrogantly oblivious.
Anticipate.
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That’s very good advice. Thank you.
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01-27-2022, 05:07 AM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Southeast, Pennsylvania
Trailer: cancelled
Posts: 30
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Don't know if it helps, YakRV, but my very first towing experience was towing two horses from Wyoming to Pennsylvania. Spent 10 minutes driving around a mostly empty parking lot getting used to how the trailer pulled and then hit the road for 1800 miles of mostly interstate driving.
Echoing gbaglo's advice, I was (more than) somewhat nervous and anticipated as much as possible. Didn't have any issues during the trip.
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01-27-2022, 06:42 AM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Trailer: "Side Effect" 2022 21C
Posts: 1,391
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Even before this increase we have been deciding whether to have our Escape delivered to Denver or make an adventure out of it and pick it up in Sumas (34 hour drive).
In either case we get to spend some time with our granddaughter in Cheyenne.
Since our Escape has a late October completion date I have been looking at average temps across this route. From Cheyenne it takes us through Bozeman, MT on the northern route and Salt Lake City, UT on the southern route.
My guess is the southern route is best for weather.
What do you think?
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01-27-2022, 07:30 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
Personally, I still don’t mind the thought of a tent.
That’s what we did on the way to Tucson to get our first Escape. Then we camped our way back home. A couple weeks later I drove about 150 miles to a rendezvous. Stayed in my Eureka Timberline again, with a perfectly good Escape at home. Probably crazy but I like tents. There are lots of state parks with reasonably priced cabins in campgrounds too. Jar of jelly, jar of peanut butter and a loaf of bread and I’m 18 again. Hotels and restaurants meals have no attraction for me when I’m trying to make a lot of miles. Good luck to all with the challenges of picking up a new trailer. It will soon all be behind you.
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Hi: Iowa Dave... You are just two intents!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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01-27-2022, 10:47 AM
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#32
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2021 Escape 17B
Posts: 43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Better to be somewhat nervous than arrogantly oblivious.
Anticipate.
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If you follow this advice, you'll be fine! We were first-time owners and drove through the Canadian Rockies from Chilliwack to Calgary with no problems. Find some good how-to's on YouTube to study, and just take it as slow as you need to feel comfortable on the road.
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01-27-2022, 11:42 AM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Seal Beach, California
Trailer: 2022 Lynne's Escape19 TV GMC 1500 4x4 Diesel/
Posts: 100
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Escape profit centers
It's quite normal for companies that do a lot of shipping. Especially companies that have deals with shippers. To hide in the shipping costs a bump to add to their profit margins. This is the normal process of business that I have been involved with for a number of years, when I was employed not retired. I assumed that escape considering there a corporate entity now would have added in a little bump to increase their bottom line. If they haven't maybe there is hope for humanity.
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01-27-2022, 12:04 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Trailer: 2021 Escape E5.0; 2021 F150 PowerBoost
Posts: 1,193
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YakRV
Our plan has been for receiving delivery in Bozeman to save the 800 miles/13 hours of travel each way between there and Sumas. We also chose Bozeman to avoid steep grades we fear we’d be towing through from Sumas heading back to the Midwest.
Upon seeing the new delivery prices, however, we’re now considering a Sumas pickup. With that in mind, is the route from Sumas heading back east too much for newbies? We don’t have a tow vehicle yet, but we’re shopping for a new F-150 so we should have plenty of towing capability. What we don’t have is any experience - at all.
So, does anyone have any advice on whether we should attempt towing from Sumas, or should we stick with Bozeman?
Thanks.
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We picked up in Sumas last year. There is no steep grade problem, unless your tow vehicle is inadequate. Take it easy and don't try to do too much after the pickup. We drove about 70 miles, and you can do less if you stay closer. Unless time is a problem, I'd highly recommend a pickup in Sumas. Yes, it may get you out of your comfort zone a bit but that's completely normal. But, you have to do the initial nervous miles - regardless of where you start. And, there is progress. By the time we got home, we had progressed from very green and very nervous to merely green and nervous...
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01-27-2022, 12:43 PM
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#35
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hugh
Argh, perfect timing. I'm about a month away from signing off on the build sheet, and just got the email that delivery prices are going up.
For eastern US delivery, the price has gone up $1000!
I guess it's not surprising, given current inflation and labor issues, but a hard pill to swallow nonetheless. Unlike money going into the trailer itself, delivery costs feel like money that's just being thrown away.
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Hi: hugh... This is just a 1,000 more reasons to take a holiday and pick up the trailer at ETI or close by. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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01-27-2022, 12:45 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,215
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...and learning the ropes out West with more open space has to be easier than east of MS. River I would think.
Picking up in Sumas and doing the Cascades Highway i(WA 20) is awesome.
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01-27-2022, 01:23 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Trailer: 2022 Escape 21C
Posts: 269
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So, anyone heading out to Sumas with a big truck feeling like picking up a few extra trailers to drop off along the way back?
The trailers have a hitch receiver, right?
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01-27-2022, 03:45 PM
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#38
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 21 NE
Posts: 89
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It's a time vs. money equation. We live in Texas, but picked up the trailer in Salt Lake City...saved about $1000 on delivery and really enjoyed getting to know the trailer on the way home. One of our best trips so far through southern Utah, Arizona and New Mexico. If you have the time, would definately pick it up somewhere closer and enjoy the trip. Now that I think about it, probably spent the $1000 on the trip, but had a heck of a good time.
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01-27-2022, 03:57 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Cold Spring, Kentucky
Trailer: 2022 21C + 2021 F-150 PowerBoost 4x4
Posts: 572
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reimj
Don't know if it helps, YakRV, but my very first towing experience was towing two horses from Wyoming to Pennsylvania. Spent 10 minutes driving around a mostly empty parking lot getting used to how the trailer pulled and then hit the road for 1800 miles of mostly interstate driving.
Echoing gbaglo's advice, I was (more than) somewhat nervous and anticipated as much as possible. Didn't have any issues during the trip.
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Thank you, Reimj, sounds like quite the undertaking. Appreciate the help.
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01-27-2022, 04:00 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Cold Spring, Kentucky
Trailer: 2022 21C + 2021 F-150 PowerBoost 4x4
Posts: 572
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jediwhale
If you follow this advice, you'll be fine! We were first-time owners and drove through the Canadian Rockies from Chilliwack to Calgary with no problems. Find some good how-to's on YouTube to study, and just take it as slow as you need to feel comfortable on the road.
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Thank you, jediwhale. Good to hear you had a good trip that first tow. Yes, slow and careful is the way.
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