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Old 11-04-2020, 12:24 AM   #1
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Escape 21 LED tail lights?

I have a 2014 Escape 21, and 2 of those multi-LED tail lights have lost several of their LEDs... does anyone know what brand/part these are? thankfully, the brake lights are working, but 2 of the high lights have most of the tail/running light LEDs out.

oh, does anyone know if these can be replaced without having to cut into the interior liners?
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Old 11-04-2020, 12:42 AM   #2
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John, Techfan has a write-up in this thread. You'll have to pick through the thread to find all the info. Hope it helps: https://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f...ghts-5155.html
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Old 11-04-2020, 12:45 AM   #3
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The part number is here, direct link: https://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f...tml#post241698
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Old 11-04-2020, 12:57 AM   #4
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The part number is here, direct link: https://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f...tml#post241698
ah, thanks, I just skimmed that whole 4 page thread and missed it lotsa talk about sikaflex vs proflex :-/
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Old 11-07-2020, 03:19 AM   #5
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so I now have two, heh. guess I'll have to drill out the rivets and remove one to see what the wiring is going to be like, hoping I can do it outside, and not have to cut the liner inside the rear cabinet. If I have to cut, I do believe I'll wax pen a reference line and mark in the middle of the rear window, and measure everything on the outside from there, then match that on the inside tp make a careful slice in the vinyl liner.

i have a unopened tube of Sikaflex around here somewhere, its only a year or two old, so should still be good?
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I have a 2014 Escape 21, and 2 of those multi-LED tail lights have lost several of their LEDs... does anyone know what brand/part these are? thankfully, the brake lights are working, but 2 of the high lights have most of the tail/running light LEDs out.

oh, does anyone know if these can be replaced without having to cut into the interior liners?
I've had to replace a few as well...

Here you go:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C10QNOY

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B004RBVQ9C

I found mine had enough slack that I was able to remove without needing access from inside.

I added blade connectors to the wires to make a future replacement easier
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Old 11-07-2020, 03:41 AM   #7
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I have a 2014 Escape 21, and 2 of those multi-LED tail lights have lost several of their LEDs... does anyone know what brand/part these are? thankfully, the brake lights are working, but 2 of the high lights have most of the tail/running light LEDs out.

oh, does anyone know if these can be replaced without having to cut into the interior liners?
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so I now have two, heh. guess I'll have to drill out the rivets and remove one to see what the wiring is going to be like, hoping I can do it outside, and not have to cut the liner inside the rear cabinet. If I have to cut, I do believe I'll wax pen a reference line and mark in the middle of the rear window, and measure everything on the outside from there, then match that on the inside tp make a careful slice in the vinyl liner.

i have a unopened tube of Sikaflex around here somewhere, its only a year or two old, so should still be good?
rivets? mine were screwed in.
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.... i have a unopened tube of Sikaflex around here somewhere, its only a year or two old, so should still be good?
Just FYI and FWIW if you look at the Product Data Sheet for the specific SikaFlex product those include shelf-life info.

Available here
https://usa.sika.com/en/industry/pro.../sikaflex.html

Many cartridges are listed at 12mos / 77*F storage, apparently some cartridges have a 'Best Used By' or 'Expiration Date' stamp, but YMMV.

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Old 11-07-2020, 10:01 AM   #9
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Hey Alf! How'd Escape do those new style markers on your 5.0? Can you see the old holes?
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Old 11-07-2020, 11:48 AM   #10
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I really like the long, flat tail lights. IF you have a panic stop, it's really obvious you're stopping because the back end of the trailer glows red!


I need to change one of the upper lights this next year. Several LEDs are out. I'm going to replace with the exact same type. BUT, I'm thinking of gluing (JB Weld?) a backer plate made out of aluminum to the entire length/width. Maybe that would keep the tail light from warping? OR, I have a bunch of RV EZ gutter. Maybe I'll cut three exact lengths and press it right above the tail lights. The way the EZ gutter is shaped, water running off the roof should flow over the top of the tail lights. Hummmm.
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I'm thinking of gluing (JB Weld?) a backer plate made out of aluminum to the entire length/width.
The best stuff for attaching aluminum to gelcoat that I have found would be 3M 5200. The bond between the plate and the trailer would be completely waterproof and the aluminum plate could be made such that a flat surface is made to the lens.

You wouldn't have to go all the way across the trailer - just make the plates to fit the lens and attach the plates to the gelcoat. Any curve would be taken up by the 5200.

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...3241623&rt=rud

Just make absolutely sure that the plate is where you want it before the 5200 sets. Once set, the only way to get it off is to cut it off.
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Old 11-07-2020, 12:01 PM   #12
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I think the idea of an aluminum backer plate holds promise and think it would be glued to the lens- not the trailer.
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You want to be able to replace the lens in the future. You don't want to have to throw the old lens away with the backer plate.

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Old 11-07-2020, 12:35 PM   #14
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I can buy the entire tail light for < $18. I can't even find just the lens, even Bargman doesn't have it. And no, I wouldn't glue the tail light to the body of the trailer, just the backer plate to the tail light. All of this is in the thinking stage. Nothing will be done until next Spring.
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so I now have two, heh. guess I'll have to drill out the rivets and remove one to see what the wiring is going to be like, hoping I can do it outside, and not have to cut the liner inside the rear cabinet. If I have to cut, I do believe I'll wax pen a reference line and mark in the middle of the rear window, and measure everything on the outside from there, then match that on the inside tp make a careful slice in the vinyl liner.

i have a unopened tube of Sikaflex around here somewhere, its only a year or two old, so should still be good?
John, when I replaced the drivers side led strip I found the wires very short but was able to tug on them some to get more play. You can see in the picture that ETI taped the wires to the fiberglass, I think tugging it pulled it out of some of the tape.
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I can buy the entire tail light for < $18.
Where from? Best I see is >$30.
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Where from? Best I see is >$30.
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Bargman-47-54.../dp/B004RBVQ9C
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Ok, yes- that is for the middle marker light. The outside one is $36: 47-54-001:
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Ok, yes- that is for the middle marker light. The outside one is $36: 47-54-001:
https://www.amazon.com/Bargman-47-54...omotive&sr=1-1
Oh crumb, you're right 01 is the tail light 02 is the center light. Good thing I didn't order four of them
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i ordered two of the 3-wire version, I'll just leave the brake wire disconnected on the upper middle one.
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