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10-21-2020, 12:59 PM
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Folding counter extension hinge fail
After our first haul of around 150 miles, one of the two hinge pins came apart on our folding counter extension. It's a two-piece aluminum stud-and-tube unit that's press-fit into place. I managed to squeeze it back into place with channellock pliers. (sorry i didn't take pix)
Some 250 miles later it came apart again. Pretty cheap manufacturing (not Escape's fault). This time I took a length of aluminum wire, hammered it flat, and placed it into the tube before I pressed the stud back in - this should firm it up (I hope).
Has anyone found it necessary to use some hold-down method to keep the counter extension from flapping around (and thus loosening the hinge)?
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10-22-2020, 06:20 AM
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A picture of the hinge would help, it doesn't sound like the same as I had.
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10-22-2020, 07:13 AM
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10-22-2020, 07:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
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They may be these - I bought some to add another folding shelf and they matched exactly the ones Escape installed.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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10-22-2020, 08:20 AM
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Yes, yours are the right color.....
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10-22-2020, 11:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Yes, yours are the right color.....
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But I like the price for the ones you linked better! For that much difference in price, maybe a can of brown spray paint?
The grey ones are a little bigger as well - might help with the hinge breaking.
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10-23-2020, 05:06 PM
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That's the one - brown. I suppose a screw-and-bolt solution for a failed hinge pin would work too. Hope yours doesn't break too!
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10-23-2020, 05:29 PM
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The hinges I had, same as those shown, never failed in 40k miles. Think I'd try a new set of the same hinges and see how they hold up.
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10-23-2020, 05:39 PM
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I tow with them down and closed, perhaps that may be the solution....
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10-23-2020, 07:28 PM
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I recently had to replace a folding shelf support, but only because I leaned on it with my full weight. They come as a pair and cost about $30 CAD. No biggie.
I leave it in the up position full time.
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10-25-2020, 06:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1200bruce
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These would not work with the flip up tables. If you notice on the factory ones there is an offset on the horizontal service to allow placement of the shelf so that when open it is flush with the countertop. These do not have that offset.
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06-29-2022, 05:01 PM
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The pin (below) fell out of my counter extension hinge.
This is from a 2022 5.0 TA.
Does anyone know what these pins are called, and any source that might have replacement pins?
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06-29-2022, 05:03 PM
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Can you reuse the original?
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06-29-2022, 06:02 PM
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Store bought
Quote:
Originally Posted by richm
The pin (below) fell out of my counter extension hinge.
This is from a 2022 5.0 TA.
Does anyone know what these pins are called, and any source that might have replacement pins?
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If you go to a good hardware store they often have racks of small boxes of specialty hardware. There are pictures on the outside of the boxes as to what is inside. That’s what I’d try first.
Iowa Dave
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06-29-2022, 11:36 PM
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Keeping the hinges from flapping
To keep our hinges from unnecessary wear and tear, we used a little wood and some cabinet door magnets to keep the folding table in place. - Bea
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06-30-2022, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richm
The pin (below) fell out of my counter extension hinge.
This is from a 2022 5.0 TA.
Does anyone know what these pins are called, and any source that might have replacement pins?
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I am sure you could use a bolt of the same diameter and a nylock nut or two nuts tighten together so the bolt is free to move a bit.
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06-30-2022, 12:20 PM
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Here’s what I did to fix the loose press-fit hinge pin - I noticed that it wasn’t staying together (the inner pin has grooves on the shaft that should grip the inside of the outer pin), so I took a short piece of aluminum wire (aluminum being malleable), and placed it in the outer half, then used channelocks to squeeze the two halves together into place. It hasn’t come undone yet!
You can likely find these pins at any good Ace Hardware or such.
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06-30-2022, 01:49 PM
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So what happens here? The shelf flops around while traveling?
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06-30-2022, 02:17 PM
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I leaned on my shelf which collapsed one support. Bought a brand new pair for $25 CAD. Simple replacement.
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