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01-23-2022, 05:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
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Roof Vent Removal
As I posted a couple of weeks ago I was shocked to find my roof vent had literally disintegrated and luckily in addition to the trailer cover which isn't entirely water proof the day had been saved because I also had a painters drop sheet over the roof.
I thought that I'd remove the remains of the cover today before I order a replacement, just to confirm the hinge type. I still couldn't understand how it could have been so badly damaged. That is until I lifted one of the fragments off the bug screen. It had the strength of a wet cracker or maybe puff pastry. Put a piece between my thumb and finger, apply the most minor amount of pressure and it broke. Despite the plastic cover being riveted to the metal frame I removed the plastic entirely from the frame with my fingers only. Given the age of the trailer and the fact that it spends about 8 months of the year under a cover that's pretty bad.
At any rate I'll replace it with a polycarbonate one. Glad that option exists.
Of course I knew that my trailer was wired for an A/C and I'd seen the yellow 110V wires near the converter but it was nice to confirm that they did go to hatch as well as finding the other wires.
Any one know where they go? I suspect that some of them go to the location where the A/C would be if I had one. What about the red/black? Panel or thermostat location?
The frame on the roof is galvanized and already there were small spots of rust. Didn't want the rust spots to get larger to the point of ending up with a rust stain on the nearby gelcoat so I slapped on some protective rust paint.
Ron
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01-23-2022, 05:59 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
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I HAD to replace the same vent on Ten Forward last fall. So brittle if I looked at it side ways I think it would have crumbled more. I wasn't able to get a polycarbonate made vent, but did spray a couple of coat of Fusion on it. Hopefully that will help. It really didn't take long to replace it. The scary part for me was leaning over the roof. I really didn't like that...
I'm so glad I noticed it was bad, otherwise during a big rain storm it may have turned the inside of my trailer into a swimming pool.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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01-23-2022, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA "Junior", 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
I HAD to replace the same vent on Ten Forward last fall. So brittle if I looked at it side ways I think it would have crumbled more. I wasn't able to get a polycarbonate made vent, but did spray a couple of coat of Fusion on it. Hopefully that will help. It really didn't take long to replace it. The scary part for me was leaning over the roof. I really didn't like that...
I'm so glad I noticed it was bad, otherwise during a big rain storm it may have turned the inside of my trailer into a swimming pool.
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Donna, was that the bedroom escape hatch vent on Ten Forward? After hearing about issues with that cover over time, and experience with other similar type materials in the Texas sun, I snagged a replacement cover a few months ago when I had the chance to grab one just to have on hand for eventual replacement. It's just the cover, hopefully the frame and lift mechanism will last longer and can be reused. But your idea to add several coats of Fusion to the cover as extra protection is a good one - I think I'll do that to my replacement one so it's ready to go when it is eventually needed.
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David, Mary, and the cats
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01-23-2022, 06:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidmurphy02
Donna, was that the bedroom escape hatch vent on Ten Forward?
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No, it was the 14x14 over the rear dinette. That caused me to really check out the egress vent in the loft. So far, it's fine, BUT I too bought a replacement lid for it because I knew the larger size are sometimes hard to find. It too will get the Fusion treatment
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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01-23-2022, 06:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Austin, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
No, it was the 14x14 over the rear dinette. That caused me to really check out the egress vent in the loft. So far, it's fine, BUT I too bought a replacement lid for it because I knew the larger size are sometimes hard to find. It too will get the Fusion treatment 
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Glad to hear your original escape hatch vent cover is still hanging in there....hope for a long life for mine, but Texas sun.....
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David, Mary, and the cats
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01-23-2022, 09:32 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Pitt Meadows, British Columbia
Trailer: 17B 2019
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Thanks for the info, we need to do ours as well. Amazing how the sun can break it down. Always keep the trailer covered at home but last summer noticed the cover was like tissue paper with the sun. And we live on the west coast!
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01-24-2022, 06:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Farmington Hills, Michigan
Trailer: 2021 Escape 19
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You gotta keep in mind, we're standing in direct view of an un-shielded fusion reactor. It's crazy.
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01-24-2022, 08:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
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re: "...I was shocked to find my roof vent had literally disintegrated and luckily in addition to the trailer cover which isn't entirely water proof the day had been saved because I also had a painters drop sheet over the roof...."
Ron, your roof vent lid lasted only 3 years? That is very disturbing...something I would never expect. Will be up there on mine with a can of Fusion spray today.
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Myron
"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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01-24-2022, 09:54 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: St Louis, Missouri
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The romex wire runs to the AC breaker panel area. The conductors are not connected to anything, just ready for you to install a new breaker and connect if/when you install AC.
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01-24-2022, 10:03 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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01-24-2022, 10:58 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: East of Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0 / 2022 F150 SuperCab
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
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For me the answer is: "Because it's a huge and ugly wart with no added benefit to me."
I'll opt for the Fusion paint for some hopefully extended life in spite of Texas sun. YMMV of course
FYI link to MaxxAir Original Vent Cover installation instructions
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01-24-2022, 11:01 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bcescapist
Thanks for the info, we need to do ours as well. Amazing how the sun can break it down. Always keep the trailer covered at home but last summer noticed the cover was like tissue paper with the sun. And we live on the west coast!
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You mean the wet west coast.
I bought my Polycarbonate replacement from Amazon.ca. partly because I try to stay out of stores as much as possible.
The hatch lid is their 40161/40168 and it cost $42.77CDN and the profile of my hinge matches that.
Ron
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01-24-2022, 11:05 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mfschu
The romex wire runs to the AC breaker panel area. The conductors are not connected to anything, just ready for you to install a new breaker and connect if/when you install AC.
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Thanks. I've seen the romex at the converter and in a pinch I could use them as 12V power for a smaller computer type fan at the vent.
Do you mean that the two blue and red/blue wires also go to the vicinity of the converter also or do they go to where the A/C thermostat would normally go?
Ron
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01-24-2022, 11:07 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Centex
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Ouch,  I was just going to say that it acts as a small skylight and makes the area much brighter so I wouldn't want an additional cover.
We put in a piece of foam in cold weather and really notice the loss of light when it's installed.
Ron
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01-24-2022, 05:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
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Well I don't know, hoss, but I was just up there and my 9 year old Maxifan shroud is looking good as new to me. Bathroom vent lid is equally sturdy, though a tad yellowish. I decided to wipe it down and give it a new coat of paint. Rustoleum is the only paint for plastic they sell at HomeDepo.
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Myron
"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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01-24-2022, 05:32 PM
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Senior Member
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Well I don't know either. I had to smack the one in my Scamp with a hoe breaking ice to crack it.  The material still had lot's of strength and I just used some resin to patch it until I replaced it at a later date.
The E21 was so bio degradable that it's hard to describe how weak it was and that it literally fell apart on its own.
So I don't know if it was a bad batch of plastic or they changed the formula to save money but it sure was a surprise.
Good job on yours, looks good and will definitely extend the life.
If it happens to me again I'll go for the aluminum option.  Although I do like the light it lets in.
Ron
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01-24-2022, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
If it happens to me again I'll go for the aluminum option.  Although I do like the light it lets in.
Ron
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Yeah, I found this AFTER I had painted the one I ended up installing. Otherwise THIS would be on my trailer right now. https://www.etrailer.com/RV-Vents-an...12800403102039
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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01-24-2022, 06:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19
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Just to clarify, are these vent covers where the air conditioner would be placed if you had one? Our only non-appliance, operable vent is our Maxx Fan cover on our 2017 E19, which is equipped with A/C and it seems fine.
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01-24-2022, 06:32 PM
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Not on mine. I replaced that 14x14 manual vent with the AC several years back.
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Myron
"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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01-24-2022, 07:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoSwany
Just to clarify, are these vent covers where the air conditioner would be placed if you had one? Our only non-appliance, operable vent is our Maxx Fan cover on our 2017 E19, which is equipped with A/C and it seems fine.
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Yes, that's correct. While a minority some buyers don't order the A/C. In that case the hole has the 14" x 14" opening vent installed. The A/C can use the same size opening. As you can see in the photos all the wiring is there whether you get the A/C option or not. It's basically a drop in situation.
Ron
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