Quality Reduction + 10% Price Increase =

[Ooshkaboo]

Originally Posted by tdf-texas

Most of the forum members are here to learn or help others. A few are here to make snarky comments to anyone that attempts to do either.

Which is why I quit as a moderator here and rarely post anymore - I had had enough of putting up with the few.

This thread started out as a discussion on the quality of Escapes and now had transmuted to a discussion of snarky commenters.

Can we get back to the OP's subject - the nasty comments will always be here until the forum admin decides to make it stop.

There in lies the problem, the moderators have a personal relationship with the nasties, they allow this abuse to continue. Many on here, including myself have tried to stick to a information based format.

Whatever issues the nasties have, the continual condescending attacks get old, its not appreciated by some people.

I never did care for the turn the other cheek solution, so if the bully doesn’t like being poked back, then—-don’t start none won’t be none.

[Rossue]

Except my experience is left unchallenged the snarky commenta remain. Challenged - give it back- then invariably the original snark and reply magically disappear.

This forum is touted as this Genteeel you will follow the rules...
The problem is there seems to be different rules for different people.

[escape artist]

Originally Posted by Rossue

Except my experience is left unchallenged the snarky commenta remain. Challenged - give it back- then invariably the original snark and reply magically disappear.

This forum is touted as this Genteeel you will follow the rules...
The problem is there seems to be different rules for different people.

Hi: Rossue...Two sets of rules is a historical constant. Having run afowl before I have been banned, cadjoled, and suggested to, to the point I think twice before replying!!!
Once...TWICE... Now I'll let you have it. LoL Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[oldwave]

Originally Posted by Ooshkaboo

There in lies the problem, the moderators have a personal relationship with the nasties, they allow this abuse to continue. Many on here, including myself have tried to stick to a information based format.

Whatever issues the nasties have, the continual condescending attacks get old, its not appreciated by some people.

I never did care for the turn the other cheek solution, so if the bully doesn’t like being poked back, then—-don’t start none won’t be none.

Now that seems snarky to me

[Dcboyd]

Well I am new here, have learned a lot from y’all folks. Have had a lot of fun working on my new trailer to make it personal. Yesterday I put switch next to the propane alarm as it was continuously alarming when the trailer is closed up. I guess it is still off gassing. It is stored under my carport, so it’s easy to work on. Wife is in there everyday saying “you know what I want next” when you get through with my last list.....

[Donna D.]

Originally Posted by Ooshkaboo

There in lies the problem, the moderators have a personal relationship with the nasties, they allow this abuse to continue. Many on here, including myself have tried to stick to a information based format.

I can guarantee you that's not true. No one I personally know is a 'nastie.' I wouldn't put up with it.

Originally Posted by Rossue

Except my experience is left unchallenged the snarky commenta remain. Challenged - give it back- then invariably the original snark and reply magically disappear.

This forum is touted as this Genteeel you will follow the rules...
The problem is there seems to be different rules for different people.

No member knows which posts have been edited or deleted... unless it's their post, because there are NO breadcrumbs visible to the membership. Only mods/admins have visibility. So there seems to be a whole lot of assumptions made.


Can we please get back on topic. PLEASE.

[cpaharley2008]

Thanks Donna........

[Iowa Dave]

I don’t know about anyone else but my old buddy CPA Harley has reprimanded me a couple times so I guess that zucchini diplomacy only goes so far. And I’m chuckling.
Iowa Dave

[oldwave]

Simply put be nice

[tdf-texas]

Originally Posted by Ooshkaboo

There in lies the problem, the moderators have a personal relationship with the nasties, they allow this abuse to continue. Many on here, including myself have tried to stick to a information based format.

Whatever issues the nasties have, the continual condescending attacks get old, its not appreciated by some people.

I never did care for the turn the other cheek solution, so if the bully doesn’t like being poked back, then—-don’t start none won’t be none.

Sorry Donna D, couldn't let this one slip by.

I don't know how the moderators came into this discussion but... I have worked with all the current moderators and you couldn't ask for a better group of people. Being a moderator is an unpaid volunteer position, they put in a lot of hours cleaning up and helping members with their posts and do a great job of keeping the forum going.

The forum admin and the owners of the website are the ones that make the big decisions and they are concerned more with increasing membership so advertising dollars can go up - not the day to day stuff or someone's feelings getting hurt.

So please. Praise the moderators for what they do - it's not them that allow the trolling.

[kavm]

Originally Posted by tdf-texas

Sorry Donna D, couldn't let this one slip by.

I don't know how the moderators came into this discussion but... I have worked with all the current moderators and you couldn't ask for a better group of people. Being a moderator is an unpaid volunteer position, they put in a lot of hours cleaning up and helping members with their posts and do a great job of keeping the forum going.

The forum admin and the owners of the website are the ones that make the big decisions and they are concerned more with increasing membership so advertising dollars can go up - not the day to day stuff or someone's feelings getting hurt.

So please. Praise the moderators for what they do - it's not them that allow the trolling.

I do not know what goes on behind the scene with the moderators, but have found Donna's interventions very astute and helpful. So, thank you very much for what you do!

[Greatboatz3]

Just for the record as a new member I couldn't agree more that the senior members have treated us new members respect. Without your knowledge and helpfulness I know I wouldn't stand a chance. With the repairs, upgrades, modifications, options, understanding the systems, and answering some stupid questions like " What is a weight Distribution Hitch? the forum members have been invaluable.
Escape trailers are great trailers and much of their reputation is due to its members.
Thanks to all for all of your help. We start our cross country trip to Sumas in 5 days.
Jim

[sofmerc]

Originally Posted by Greatboatz3

Just for the record as a new member I couldn't agree more that the senior members have treated us new members respect. Without your knowledge and helpfulness I know I wouldn't stand a chance. With the repairs, upgrades, modifications, options, understanding the systems, and answering some stupid questions like " What is a weight Distribution Hitch? the forum members have been invaluable.
Escape trailers are great trailers and much of their reputation is due to its members.
Thanks to all for all of your help. We start our cross country trip to Sumas in 5 days.
Jim

I agree

[Ooshkaboo]

Originally Posted by Donna D.

I can guarantee you that's not true. No one I personally know is a 'nastie.' I wouldn't put up with it.


No member knows which posts have been edited or deleted... unless it's their post, because there are NO breadcrumbs visible to the membership. Only mods/admins have visibility. So there seems to be a whole lot of assumptions made.


Can we please get back on topic. PLEASE.

Looks like some blood pressures need checked…

[Erik65]

Originally Posted by WillyB

David,

Thank you for your response. You always have a positive way with your words.

I am looking at the Casitas as well. My only negative is you can't get tandem axles.

Having owned both I can say that the build quality between the Casita and Escape is not even close. Escape wins hands down.

[J&B Mitt]

Originally Posted by Donna D.

No member knows which posts have been edited or deleted... unless it's their post, because there are NO breadcrumbs visible to the membership.

Not entirely true. It is typical to see an original (deleted) post shown as a quote in someone's subsequent reply.

[Donna D.]

Originally Posted by J&B Mitt

Not entirely true. It is typical to see an original (deleted) post shown as a quote in someone's subsequent reply.

A good moderator takes care of that too.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by J&B Mitt

Not entirely true. It is typical to see an original (deleted) post shown as a quote in someone's subsequent reply.

Also, anyone who gets e-mail notifications of new posts can have a copy of a post which is later deleted or modified, whether the member or a moderator makes the change.

[Dcboyd]

Originally Posted by Donna D.

A good moderator takes care of that too.

And you are a good moderator. Thank you!

[Dcboyd]

Originally Posted by tdf-texas

Sorry Donna D, couldn't let this one slip by.

I don't know how the moderators came into this discussion but... I have worked with all the current moderators and you couldn't ask for a better group of people. Being a moderator is an unpaid volunteer position, they put in a lot of hours cleaning up and helping members with their posts and do a great job of keeping the forum going.

The forum admin and the owners of the website are the ones that make the big decisions and they are concerned more with increasing membership so advertising dollars can go up - not the day to day stuff or someone's feelings getting hurt.

So please. Praise the moderators for what they do - it's not them that allow the trolling.

And you sir, thank you..... your input has made my Escape a muy improved unit.
Hope we can meet sometimes.