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07-14-2021, 04:45 AM
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#101
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,121
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We had a 2007 17B for 5 years. We sold it to upgrade, actually we were waiting for a used 19, didn't happen. We looked at other RV manufactures and decided it was Escape or Tiffin. We couldn't afford a Tiffin so Escape it was.
So my quality is equal on both trailer so where's the quality reduction?
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Had 2 Escapes, 17b, 19, went back to a pop up that fit in the garage. 2018 Coachman Clipper RBST HW AFrame
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07-14-2021, 11:35 AM
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#102
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Calais, Maine
Trailer: 21 foot 5.0 fifth wheel 2017
Posts: 89
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Thought this forum was a place for Escape discourse both positive and negative, we must respect both if we want honesty in our brand
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07-14-2021, 12:00 PM
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#103
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Okanagan Falls, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21
Posts: 15
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**How about letting United States customers pay in Canadian Dollars? Canadian prices only went up 5%. Source? This forum.“**
The change in US$-CDN$ exchange rate is likely the cause for the other 5% in the US$ price increase.
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07-14-2021, 12:07 PM
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#104
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Lanesboro, MN, between Whalan and Fountain, Minnesota
Trailer: 2016 Bigfoot 25RQ - (2018 Escape 5.0 sold)
Posts: 2,188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug2000
We had a 2007 17B for 5 years. We sold it to upgrade, actually we were waiting for a used 19, didn't happen. We looked at other RV manufactures and decided it was Escape or Tiffin. We couldn't afford a Tiffin so Escape it was.
So my quality is equal on both trailer so where's the quality reduction?
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Our friends had a pristine 5.0, but six months later had a chance to purchase a rare 28' Tiffin with two solar systems (one 600 watts and one 300 watts), 6 two-year old Lifeline AGM's, many other upgrades, with only 60,000 miles for $92,000. It turns on a dime! I told them that if they didn't buy we would.
In the summer it sits in the same seasonal campground our 5.0 sits and we have to look at their Tiffin every time we go to our site.
Enjoy,
Perry
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07-14-2021, 12:24 PM
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#105
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2022 21C
Posts: 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
What I find interesting is a non Escape owner posting about Escape quality? Seems to me the best way to determine quality is to use the product and then post your results.......
after owning 4 Escapes I am ordering another one, does that say anything?
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You hit the nail on the head cpahartley - good sage information from a Escape owner who has used the product for many years. Thank you! PS price increases can happen every year in many industries. With all the obstacles in 2020 with Covid and the economy - no one should be surprised about a price increase.
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07-14-2021, 01:14 PM
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#106
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Kent, Washington
Trailer: 2009 Trillium 1300
Posts: 131
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Canada vs US
I haven't seen a post dealing with the exchange rate between the US and Canada.
Oops, #103 does. Didn't notice multiple pages.
Has the border crossing issue been solved? Used to be a two week quarantine before you were allowed into the public coming from the US.
BTW today it is $1.25 CDN = $1.00 US.
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07-14-2021, 01:40 PM
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#107
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Sutherlin, Oregon
Trailer: 2021 Escape 19 (6/15/21)
Posts: 13
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BTW today it is $1.25 CDN = $1.00 US.
True. But the trend over the past few months has been negative. ETI must estimate the average exchange rate for the next year, and with a negative trend will likely estimate the trend will continue.
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07-14-2021, 01:44 PM
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#108
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Sutherlin, Oregon
Trailer: 2021 Escape 19 (6/15/21)
Posts: 13
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By the way, the one month old E19 is still impressing us. No problems other than trying to figure out how to get the screws in the tracks for the Eggscape-inspired storage system under the bed.
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07-14-2021, 02:51 PM
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#109
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Trailer: 2012 E19
Posts: 1,773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Sorry if you've already seen my fridge.
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There's room for more beer if you'll ditch the condiments...
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Losing weight puts one at much greater risk of becoming thin.
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07-14-2021, 02:55 PM
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#110
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Trailer: 2012 E19
Posts: 1,773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
I do like beer though. Had a Hoegaarden tonight.
Iowa Dave
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I bet that cleared out some weeds.
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Losing weight puts one at much greater risk of becoming thin.
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07-14-2021, 03:11 PM
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#111
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Pugetopolis, Washington
Trailer: 2020 Escape 21NE
Posts: 64
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Did each of your Escapes get larger or did you buy another Escape for other reasons? We bought a 21NE and plan on it being the last trailer we buy
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Escape 21NE & Ram Ecodiesel
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07-14-2021, 03:15 PM
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#112
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,040
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perryb67
Our friends had a pristine 5.0, but six months later had a chance to purchase a rare 28' Tiffin with two solar systems (one 600 watts and one 300 watts), 6 two-year old Lifeline AGM's, many other upgrades, with only 60,000 miles for $92,000. It turns on a dime! I told them that if they didn't buy we would.
In the summer it sits in the same seasonal campground our 5.0 sits and we have to look at their Tiffin every time we go to our site.
Enjoy,
Perry
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Hi: Perryb67... Didn't ThorRV buy Tiffin? If so there's another one to watch for a "Quality reduction"!!! Happens to the best of them!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
St.Thomas (Not the Virgin Islands) Ontario
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07-14-2021, 03:19 PM
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#113
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Lanesboro, MN, between Whalan and Fountain, Minnesota
Trailer: 2016 Bigfoot 25RQ - (2018 Escape 5.0 sold)
Posts: 2,188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: Perryb67... Didn't ThorRV buy Tiffin? If so there's another one to watch for a "Quality reduction"!!! Happens to the best of them!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Theirs is a Tiffin Tiffin. Yes, Thor could ruin a wet .... .
Enjoy,
Perry
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07-14-2021, 03:23 PM
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#114
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 5,384
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While I did not notice a huge quality difference between my 2011 17 & my 2017 21C, obviously both were under Reace & Tammy's leadership. There were a couple of cost/time savings that caught me eye - the GFCI for the kitchen was in the outside receptacle, requiring a trip in the weather to reset, and the use of the RV type boxless receptacles throughout the trailer, difficult to replace, and not as reliable as a standard receptacle. Still, a well built trailer.
Now to the important part of this thread -
I'd probably be considered an unsophisticated beer drinker, but my favorite is Alaskan Amber. Hard to find east of the Mississippi. In the east, Kona Big Wave Golden Ale and a somewhat close second - Blue Moon Belgian White. The Kona is a bit more difficult to find...
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07-14-2021, 03:50 PM
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#115
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 8,283
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Hi Jon
After you gave me An Alaskan at Alfs rally one fall I found it a few times back here and bought some. Then when I went to Osoyoos one year I bought some in the Safeway at Grand Coulee and crossed the border with it. Glenn and I tried them and he found it “not too bad”. So I left some with Glenn along with a couple spuds that the US Border guys seem to have a fetish for. I see it here once in a while in the big grocery stores but it’s hard to get space in those coolers. The specialty beer places usually have it. I have been drinking mostly Belgians with some Germans and a little Dos Equis. The Blue Moon is regularly on sale here and usually pairs with the purchase of some fresh meat. Which is not a problem for this old carnivore.
Have a good weekend coming up and stay dry.
Iowa Dave
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Dave
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07-14-2021, 04:00 PM
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#116
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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You complain; I'll give you something to complain about.
Cry in your beer.
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07-14-2021, 05:23 PM
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#117
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Parksville, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 17B
Posts: 148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C&G in FL
Have you checked the price of new motor vehicles lately, and read any articles about recalls?
In response to your request, please help me or all current owners or all potential customers to understand why, if you believe there is a quality reduction, you either plan to have or have such an increasingly high priced, lower quality trailer on order. It just doesn’t make sense to me that anyone seemingly disgruntled would bother to move forward with plans to own an Escape. Perhaps you are basing your quality complaints on a handful of posts you have read from people who complain every time something doesn’t work properly. I can assure you they also complain when the water pump on their high mileage vehicle starts leaking or their 7-year old battery goes dead, or their washing machine at home goes on the fritz.
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My thoughts precisely, well put.
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2016 VW Touareg TDI
2014 Escape 17B "Glass Cabin"
2019 KC the Beagle
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07-14-2021, 07:40 PM
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#118
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,219
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David H
My thoughts precisely, well put.
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As long as we're drifting all over the place may I ask how your experience has been with the VW?
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- Russell Casse, Independence Day
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07-14-2021, 08:08 PM
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#119
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Hazelwood, Missouri
Trailer: 2021 5.0
Posts: 794
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There’s currently a poll about escape quality on another thread, many of the same people on this thread have completely contradicted themselves on this thread.
Over the months I've read on and on how the ramped up production and the change of ownership has many on here concerned.
A prospective owner asked a simple question on this thread and many of the same people that are appalled here at his question, are now confirming his concerns on the poll question thread.
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07-14-2021, 08:26 PM
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#120
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Kent, Ohio
Trailer: 2017 21c Sold, 2023 Bigfoot 25RQ
Posts: 1,413
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To some people life is a disease
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